Balanced 1v1 Era

[Skyend]

This has nothing to do with the balance team and 1.20 changes

This is a feedback thread for my Balanced Era of Default/Ladder Era for 1v1 competitive play.

Initially it's only meant as a replacement to 1.18 broken Ladder Era, that we can still play Ladder/competitive with an balanced era.
Unsure what to do with it, however with version 2.0.0 I decide to separate from Ladder trying minor changes.

With ladder era being updated soon, I removed it from Balanced Era again. Also there will not be an future update for a while since I don't work on 3 eras at once. Please just play with our default era fix (test) for 1.20 or ladder era for competitive.

I'll only keep this up, that you can watch your replays played on ladder era.

Balance changelog:

Version 2.0.1
- removed: Elvish Marksman as leader option (it's the strongest leader in game and should have been removed for ages in Ladder)

Version 2.0.0
- Horseman: -3 hp (to make those killable who are unable to take retail)
- Cavalryman: -1 hp, 17 gold, 30% blade resistance

Cav is more an experiment, unsure what to do with it. Keeping at 18 gold with 30% (LR) or 17 gold with only 20% (1.18 DE), or reduce hp instead

I'm looking forward for your ideas and feedback.

[Tez]

Horseman is expensive, he can already be killed by 2 archers even if he is at full health, str and res.
Now just one melee can kill one with retaliation.
Maybe his cost should be reduced, or the hp reduction should be a bit less harsh.
The other changes look ok.
Maybe also the Orcish Slayer should be removed from the leader pool, his ability to remove units from villages is too powerful.

[Skyend]

Sorry the answer to both is, no.

Horseman is an issue more when it's not getting retail, and before the change, it was to hard to kill with having 44 hp (resi/strong)
Orcish Slayer isn't op, all their leaders are fine, and crossbowman the best.

Still, thanks for sharing your casual opinion.

[Yomar]

I have a just question.
Once you said that Rebels was the strongest or best faction, in a ranking made by you SkyEnd. XD
So why you nerf Loy units instead of Elven units ?
Loyalists were just at the third or forth place, I think.
Actually in your sub-factions Era , you even made them even more powerful by, for example buffing the Wose giving him a ranged poison attack rendering the counter (mages), not my words,I saw people complaining about that when I watched them playing. (But this is not the point, I'm digressing, I wanted just to bring this to your attention in case no one else did yet.)
they were like only at third or fourth place in your ranking.

Actually I see this trend of nerfing the Loyalists faction mostly.

I'm not criticizing, these are just some observations on things that I noticed.
I think you did a good job at balancing so far, I too don't understand why the Elvish Marksman was not removed from Ladder Era yet.
Is it still even worked on ?
Anyway, I hope you will keep fine tuning this era, and keep balancing it, if needed.
Cheers.

[Skyend]

I have a just question.
Once you said that Rebels was the strongest or best faction, in a ranking made by you SkyEnd. XD
So why you nerf Loy units instead of Elven units ?
Loyalists were just at the third or forth place, I think.
Actually in your sub-factions Era , you even made them even more powerful by, for example buffing the Wose giving him a ranged poison attack rendering the counter (mages), not my words,I saw people complaining about that when I watched them playing. (But this is not the point, I'm digressing, I wanted just to bring this to your attention in case no one else did yet.)
they were like only at third or fourth place in your ranking.

Actually I see this trend of nerfing the Loyalists faction mostly.

I'm not criticizing, these are just some observations on things that I noticed.
I think you did a good job at balancing so far, I too don't understand why the Elvish Marksman was not removed from Ladder Era yet.
Is it still even worked on ?
Anyway, I hope you will keep fine tuning this era, and keep balancing it, if needed.
Cheers.

Please don't troll, none of that is true.
What ranking are u talking about?
Wose ranged attack?

[ForestDragon]

Please don't troll, none of that is true.
What ranking are u talking about?
Wose ranged attack?

I think Yomar might have mistook this for Hejnewar's subfactions era, and that one does have wose ranged poison iirc

[Skyend]

right, I even renamed it to 1v1 Era, that ppl don't think it's for 1.20 balancing

[Yomar]

Ah ok, I apologize then for my mistake.
Thx to ForestDragon for pointing this out.

[Quar]

Any future plans for balancing other units ?
If yes, wich ones ?

[Skyend]

potentially every unit:
- orcish archer (buff) and grunt (nerf)
- skeleton archer
- horseman (nerf), cav (buff or revers)

but that would only be for testing as Alt Era tried too

only thing I'm liking that far is to nerf horseman, maybe I'll add a Test Era too

[Skyend]

there will be some a map-picker update for competitive maps. EC is sadly to imba.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... sp=sharing

[Skyend]

Now that I don't work for CF nor Wesnoth anymore it's time to make this add-on real.

Wanted to discard it until 1.20 but that's the perfect time, with ladder era badly maintained and others like ranked having mutliple issues.

[Skyend]

Wow over 1k downloads that's almost more than Ladder Era.(not that this is something impressive, ladder is dead since years)