Movement costs added to lava

[Helmet]

I'd like to see movement costs added to lava, rather than it being grouped with the "unwalkable" terrains.

For most units, the movement cost would be 9, making lava essentially unwalkable anyway. Yet it would be awesome if some special units could walk on lava, if only slowly and carefully.

I'm working on a scenario with a lot of lava tiles. I recently added a new fire-themed unit who has unwalkable=3 movement cost, allowing it to walk on lava. Luckily, the scenario is outdoors where there are no cave walls, or the unit could walk through walls.

Perhaps a Dune Burner could walk across lava because of special fireproof boots?

Maybe certain fire-themed monsters could walk across lava also -- for example, a fire ant?

Thanks.

[Ravana]

Suggested as #4831

[Celtic_Minstrel]

For most units, the movement cost would be 9, making lava essentially unwalkable anyway.

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No, for most units, lava would be impassable (with infinite movement cost). There's no way an elf could cross lava without self-destructing.

I recently added a new fire-themed unit who has unwalkable=3 movement cost, allowing it to walk on lava. Luckily, the scenario is outdoors where there are no cave walls, or the unit could walk through walls.

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Um, what? Cave walls are not "unwalkable". They are "impassable", which is a separate terrain archetype from "unwalkable". Giving your unit unwalkable=3 won't allow it to walk through walls. Of course, it would allow them to walk over chasms though.

[Helmet]

...Cave walls are not "unwalkable". They are "impassable", which is a separate terrain archetype from "unwalkable". Giving your unit unwalkable=3 won't allow it to walk through walls. Of course, it would allow them to walk over chasms though.

Oh. I was thinking unwalkable and impassible were the same thing. Thanks for explaining the distinction. That info makes the coding of a future scenario a little bit easier.

Of course, lava having its own movement cost would be much easier. Then I wouldn't have to worry about my hellhound units walking across a chasm.

Hm. I guess I could put a sprite-less 0-movement unit on chasm hexes, a unit without an ellipse or XP bar to reveal its presence, and that would block the hellhounds...

No, that would block the bats. Ugh.

[Celtic_Minstrel]

You can make lava have its own movement cost in your addon. You need to make a custom "lava archetype" terrain, which will show up in the help but never be used on a map, and a custom version of the lava terrain that is an alias of the lava archetype instead of the unwalkable archetype. Then you need to use movetype patching (the [terrain_defaults] tag) to set all units who don't declare a lava move cost to use the same as the unwalkable move cost. And of course you need to always use your custom lava terrain instead of the built-in one.

[shevegen]

I could see a few unit types being potentially able to walk on lava. Something like a ranger, but rather than elf + forest some lizardman thingy or something.

It probably won't make it into the mainland campaigns, so just for add-ons.

In the add-on legend of the invincibles, one dwarf hero unit got stuck on a lava spawn tile. I don't remember if he could still move but he took tons of damage. That also taught me to always prefer flying units when possible...