po and mo

[hermestrismi]

what is the difference between .mo files and .po?
and where can I get .po?
(https://www.wesnoth.org/gettext/?view=l ... er&lang=ar had only links and not clear .po files)

[hermestrismi]

I downloaded the pages as saved page and changed extension from .txt to .po
is it that?

[Atreides]

I think there is also a way to turn .mo into .po. It was some Linux program. I did something like that a while back but I can't recall the details anymore.

[egallager]

I think there is also a way to turn .mo into .po. It was some Linux program. I did something like that a while back but I can't recall the details anymore.

yeah it's msgunfmt which is part of the gettext suite of tools: https://www.gnu.org/software/gettext/ma ... Invocation

[octalot]

The original .po files have comments, using msgunfmt to convert a .mo back to a .po will result in something that doesn't have comments.

Welcome to the translators. I'd recommend only translating the 1.16 branch, the place to get .po files from is the 1.16 ("branch") version of that page: https://www.wesnoth.org/gettext/?view=l ... ch&lang=ar

There are some bugs in handling of right-to-left languages, for example #5600. That can be fixed on the 1.16 branch (it can be fixed because it doesn't break interoperability), and if we have an active Arabic translator then that bug will treated as higher priority.

[hermestrismi]

The original .po files have comments, using msgunfmt to convert a .mo back to a .po will result in something that doesn't have comments.

Welcome to the translators. I'd recommend only translating the 1.16 branch, the place to get .po files from is the 1.16 ("branch") version of that page: https://www.wesnoth.org/gettext/?view=l ... ch&lang=ar

There are some bugs in handling of right-to-left languages, for example #5600. That can be fixed on the 1.16 branch (it can be fixed because it doesn't break interoperability), and if we have an active Arabic translator then that bug will treated as higher priority.

Hi. I already started but it will take time since there is almost 100% to translate and arabic language is really hard enough so no promises but I will do what I can

[hermestrismi]

hi
when you translate, do you keep the variable names
like from 'Loaded referenced map file:
$new' to
'ملف الخريطة المشار إليه الذي تم تحميله:
$new'
or you translate them as well?

[octalot]

Keep them - when the string is displayed, the engine will replace $new with the actual filename. It needs the original variable name, otherwise it won't know what to replace.

The engine won't complain if you omit the variable entirely. For strings such as "Should $name pick up the sword?", some languages need to know the gender of the unit, and so their translators rephrased it in a way that didn't include the unit at all.

[hermestrismi]

I am asking because while I can easly know viariables by the $ sign, I don't know if sentences like '-name:' are variables or not.
sorry, but again , I send the finished file to who? I didn't found a proper thread and no arabic translator is available

[octalot]

Please quote the exact string that you're asking about. It doesn't sound like a variable, but it sounds odd too.

As you're the only arabic translator, you're the translation maintainer and should send your files directly to Ivanovic, WesnothTranslationsHowTo#How_to_submit_your_translations. He collects the files and uploads all the ones he received each Saturday afternoon; he'll also run merge tools if the .po file isn't based on the latest version of the .pot file.

[hermestrismi]

Please quote the exact string that you're asking about. It doesn't sound like a variable, but it sounds odd too.

As you're the only arabic translator, you're the translation maintainer and should send your files directly to Ivanovic, WesnothTranslationsHowTo#How_to_submit_your_translations. He collects the files and uploads all the ones he received each Saturday afternoon; he'll also run merge tools if the .po file isn't based on the latest version of the .pot file.

yes, it is from https://www.wesnoth.org/gettext/.
I found things like

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so, that made me uncertain
also, if I translate a sentence, do that automatically translate the same word at all .po files when open them (i use PoEdiit)

[octalot]

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If we were adding those now, we'd probably make them more specific and add translation hints. They're displayed as-is to the user, so should be translated, but get reused for filenames, unit descriptions, and the tooltips that can appear when hovering over units in the scenario editor.

also, if I translate a sentence, do that automatically translate the same word at all .po files when open them (i use PoEdiit)

It doesn't, but PoEdit has a list of suggestions that are populated from previous translations. So after you translate it once, that will appear as a suggestion in the top-right pane of PoEdit when editing other files.

[hermestrismi]

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If we were adding those now, we'd probably make them more specific and add translation hints. They're displayed as-is to the user, so should be translated, but get reused for filenames, unit descriptions, and the tooltips that can appear when hovering over units in the scenario editor.

also, if I translate a sentence, do that automatically translate the same word at all .po files when open them (i use PoEdiit)

It doesn't, but PoEdit has a list of suggestions that are populated from previous translations. So after you translate it once, that will appear as a suggestion in the top-right pane of PoEdit when editing other files.

right. i see now.
thank you
another question
how can I test my .po?
(and why all files have the same name when download them (ar.po)? I change them for exemple to wesnoth-editor_ar.po but certainly this not the name the engine comprehend)

[octalot]

how can I test my .po?
(and why all files have the same name when download them (ar.po)? I change them for exemple to wesnoth-editor_ar.po but certainly this not the name the engine comprehend)

They all have the same name because the Gettext system uses the directory that they're in to decide which domain they correspond to, and the filename to decide which language they are. Edit: for .mo files, it's the other way round; it'll be translations/ar/LC_MESSAGES/wesnoth-editor.mo.

Three methods, any of which should work:

• GettextForTranslators#Files_when_running_the_game Generate .mo files (there's an option in PoEdit to do that when saving) and replace the game's .mo file with the new one.
• Replace the .po files in a full copy of the Wesnoth source, then use the build-tools to generate .mo files.
• https://r.wesnoth.org/p672739 Delete the .mo files, put the new .po files in a place where the engine will find them (which isn't where they are in the full source).

[hermestrismi]

how can I test my .po?
(and why all files have the same name when download them (ar.po)? I change them for exemple to wesnoth-editor_ar.po but certainly this not the name the engine comprehend)

They all have the same name because the Gettext system uses the directory that they're in to decide which domain they correspond to, and the filename to decide which language they are.

Three methods, any of which should work:

• Generate .mo files (there's an option in PoEdit to do that when saving) and replace the game's .mo file with the new one.
• Replace the .po files in a full copy of the Wesnoth source, then use the build-tools to generate .mo files.
• https://r.wesnoth.org/p672739 Delete the .mo files, put the new .po files in a place where the engine will find them (which isn't where they are in the full source).

my bad
I should read carefully .
Thank you very much for all those information and assistance