Poacher buffed

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Yomar
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Poacher buffed

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So despite the complaints about the Poacher, I saw them recruited more often than the Bowman (probably he is more appreciated than it seems) imo he was already before the buff a better unit than the loyalist counterpart (more ranged strikes, better terrain def. Forest and Swamp and way less XP required to lvl up).
But ok, so now he got buffed with extra HP, so why he still costs 14 gp ?
When the bowman got nerfed he went from 15 to 14 gp if I remember well.
Sgould the poacher not cost 15 gp too now ?
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Re: Poacher buffed

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Poacher is recruited more than bowman because bowman is overshadowed by spearman in most cases already and usually there is no need for a bowman. Meanwhile Knalga doesn't have a good pierce damage source, it has to choose between thunderer, guard or poacher and all of them are worse at dealing damage than common pierce damage dealing units of other factions. Thus its no surprise that poacher is used more, he simply has weaker competition. 

Number of strikes means nothing while damage is lacking, having less strikes could be even argued to be better than having more of them, only when there is a trait that could possibly increase damage number of strikes actually matters.

Lower xp and better defences (and movement costs) are the things that keep this unit afloat, I would even argue that xp is the more important one, because without quicker level ups poacher is utterly dominated by bowman and if you try to do a little experiment and put bowman in Knalga he would in turn be the one having more usage than poacher.

In conclusion, these are the reasons why poacher shouldn't cost 15g.
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Re: Poacher buffed

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Hmm, ok, but many hits are better to kill a wounded unit or to get some hits on a high def. unit.
Anyway your reasoning is valid, but why Bowman should dominate ?
He does only 1 extra damage, that is his only advantage now, against the 3 of the Pachers ones terrain defence, strikes and xp.
I would still recruit Pachers over Bowmen, cause as you said, Poachers lv quickly.
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Re: Poacher buffed

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Not many hits are better at killing full or half health units in for example walls that your chance of killing otherwise would be pretty much non-existent and also allow for easier decision making in the end.

Bowman does in total 2 extra damage in melee and 2 extra damage in range, and yes poachers do level quickly but it's not guaranteed to happen, in comparison bowman gives you more power instantly and is more consistent because of lack of reliance on level up. Bowman will also be best pierce damage for a price Knalga can buy whenever it needs to.
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