Up the River Bork

[Mirion147]

V0.3.7 is out!

Changelog things:

Spoiler:

Ep2: Adjusted ai of Elves/merfolk to make them focus on the drakes.
Ep2: Adjusted turn limit for normal/hard mode.
Ep2: Added dialog to make the world more realistic.

Ep5: Added dialog to make it more understandable that you cannot undo when clearing snow.
Ep5: Cleaned up some of the variable spam.

[WLFobe]

I don't understand the reference to "clearing snow". Did I miss something?

[Mirion147]

I don't understand the reference to "clearing snow". Did I miss something?

I'm not exactly sure what you're talking about here?

[WLFobe]

From the post right before mine:

Ep5: Added dialog to make it more understandable that you cannot undo when clearing snow.
Ep5: Cleaned up some of the variable spam.

[Mirion147]

So i recently adjusted the way Ep5 works, now there is a way to alter the terrain, but doing so will not allow you to undo.

[WLFobe]

So how do you alter terrain?

And why would you do so while being chased by a horde of undead?

[Mirion147]

Have you played through the scenario since the change?

[Helmet]

I played the campaign on easy-mode until I lost on scenario 4, "Battle in the Fog."

Details of my defeat...

Spoiler:

In scenario 4, I had my army go up the right side of the map, thinking the human castle was accessible up there, but it wasn't. I discovered that I was on the wrong side of the river, and I didn't have enough time to double-back. The only way across the river was a narrow 1-hex-wide passage, which had a horde of pikemen on the other side waiting for me. I tried to bust through, but it would've taken a tremendous amount of luck -- which I didn't have. So time ran out.

I found the scenarios I played enjoyable, and thought they had interesting objectives and innovations.

Minor criticisms of the 4 levels...

Spoiler:

The story was somewhat confusing to me. In the beginning, it seemed like a random orc was telling the tale of Tirzag, since the orc said, "I will tell his story." And it seemed like Garnush was Tirzag's brother, but I wasn't sure. The story-teller orc never mentioned that Tirzag cared about the orc's death.

But then later, as the scenarios unfolded, it seemed like the story-teller orc was Tirzag, and he was telling his own story.

I think it would be helpful to the player if you made it clear who was talking, right off the bat. Something like, "My name is Tirzag, and this is my story" or whatever. And if the poisoned orc is Tirzag's brother, have Tirzag have a reaction to his death.

Two times "tree-hearding" appears instead of tree-herding (intro story and scenario 3).

In the cave scenario, I never did figure-out how to make the water-filled passage usable. I had 10 units parked there, waiting, the whole scenario.

In scenario 4, a peasant opens his door and standing there is a goblin, and the peasant says, "Orcs! Where did you come from?"

Lastly, I found scenario 4 very hard. For easy mode, there sure were a lot of pikemen.

[Mirion147]

I played the campaign on easy-mode until I lost on scenario 4, "Battle in the Fog."

Details of my defeat...

Spoiler:

In scenario 4, I had my army go up the right side of the map, thinking the human castle was accessible up there, but it wasn't. I discovered that I was on the wrong side of the river, and I didn't have enough time to double-back. The only way across the river was a narrow 1-hex-wide passage, which had a horde of pikemen on the other side waiting for me. I tried to bust through, but it would've taken a tremendous amount of luck -- which I didn't have. So time ran out.

Thanks for trying it out! I haven't gotten hardly any feedback on easy mode so it is much appreciated! Would you mind uploading at least the replay of S4? You can upload the rest, if you want, I'm curious to see how it went for you.

Do you plan on attempting a different strategy?

I found the scenarios I played enjoyable, and thought they had interesting objectives and innovations.

I'm glad you've enjoyed what you've played, I've tried to keep things interesting in story, gameplay, and mechanics!

Minor criticisms of the 4 levels...

Spoiler:

The story was somewhat confusing to me. In the beginning, it seemed like a random orc was telling the tale of Tirzag, since the orc said, "I will tell his story." And it seemed like Garnush was Tirzag's brother, but I wasn't sure. The story-teller orc never mentioned that Tirzag cared about the orc's death.

But then later, as the scenarios unfolded, it seemed like the story-teller orc was Tirzag, and he was telling his own story.

I think it would be helpful to the player if you made it clear who was talking, right off the bat. Something like, "My name is Tirzag, and this is my story" or whatever. And if the poisoned orc is Tirzag's brother, have Tirzag have a reaction to his death.

Two times "tree-hearding" appears instead of tree-herding (intro story and scenario 3).

I think I get what you mean by this, I'll look into making this more seamless. As well as fixing the error.

Spoiler:

In the cave scenario, I never did figure-out how to make the water-filled passage usable. I had 10 units parked there, waiting, the whole scenario.

Irt S3 in the caves:

Spoiler:

So, you should be able to figure out what to do by bringing an orc with the "intelligent" trait over there.

In scenario 4, a peasant opens his door and standing there is a goblin, and the peasant says, "Orcs! Where did you come from?"

Lastly, I found scenario 4 very hard. For easy mode, there sure were a lot of pikemen.
[/spoiler]

While I see you point about the goblin/orc in S4, a goblin IS an orc, in wesnoth, just a smaller version of one.

I'll take a look at what I can do about S4 for easy mode! As before, I'd be interested to see the replay!

[Helmet]

While I see you point about the goblin/orc in S4, a goblin IS an orc, in wesnoth, just a smaller version of one.

Oh, right! I forgot about goblins being puny orcs.

I'll take a look at what I can do about S4 for easy mode! As before, I'd be interested to see the replay!

I usually play campaigns on Easy mode. I have a hard time keeping my Level 2 units alive, and I don't take moves back, so I seldom make it far in Normal and Hard modes.

I tried to attach the scenario 4 replay, but couldn't get it to work. What is the process for attaching replays? I thought it was like attaching an image, but I must be doing something wrong. Thanks.

[Mirion147]

I usually play campaigns on Easy mode. I have a hard time keeping my Level 2 units alive, and I don't take moves back, so I seldom make it far in Normal and Hard modes.

I feel that, I usually play normal mode but with a decent bit of savescumming XD. I already know I'm not very good at the game haha.

I tried to attach the scenario 4 replay, but couldn't get it to work. What is the process for attaching replays? I thought it was like attaching an image, but I must be doing something wrong. Thanks.

So in the full editor you should be able to hit attachments underneath the [save draft] [preview] [submit] buttons and next to [options] which is auto selected. then you just hit [add files] and browse. If you're having trouble finding the file you can always go into wesnoth and pull up the load menu and hit the folder icon which will pull up the save folder, and you can move it/them to a more easily findable location.

[Helmet]

So in the full editor you should be able to hit attachments...

Oh. Thanks. I hadn't noticed the attachments tab before, way down at the bottom where I never look.

UtRB-Battle in the Fog replay 20221105-152921.gz

Scenario 4 Replay, easy mode

(86.3 KiB) Downloaded 47 times

[Mirion147]

Oh my, lol. So the biggest problem I saw in your playthrough was that purple had free reign to grab villages wound up getting 40+ gold per turn XD.

I will be reducing his gold as well as some other things!

[Mirion147]

Hello again! V0.3.8 is out! As always, changelog available below! A few small changes but also added a few decent changes to Easy mode! Just to make it a bit easier! (I'm considering lowering gold carryover for easy mode though cause it's probably toooo easy lol).

Spoiler:

General: Changed spelling for tree-herders.
General: Added line to convey the story-teller would be telling the story from the pov of Tirzag.

Ep4: Adjusted gold for purple side.
Ep4: Changed some dialog.
Ep4: Added 2 more crossing points to the river.

EASY MODE CHANGES: (for balance sake, I may reduce the carryover gold of easy mode.)
Ep1: Grunts no longer have a chance to spawn in villages.
Ep2: Drake hunting flight doesn't come.
Ep3: Rally at the gate doesn't occur.
Ep4: Player gets an extra turn to recruit.
Ep5: Villages are no longer infested.

[Helmet]

Oh my, lol. So the biggest problem I saw in your playthrough was that purple had free reign to grab villages wound up getting 40+ gold per turn XD.

You know the movie Starship Troopers? Remember the scene where the space marines first arrive on the bug planet and get swarmed? After playing scenario 4, I think I know what the space marines must've felt like.

I will be reducing his gold as well as some other things!

Yes, I thought the gold was probably too generous. But, as a player, you're never sure. Maybe 200 gold carryover is a lot... ...or maybe it isn't. Maybe I need 400 gold carryover to survive the next scenario and I'm doomed!