War Of The Gods, its a good day to post here feedback.
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Re: War Of The Gods, its a good day to post here feedback.
Next version of WOTG will have units cost changes depends of the round in which faction lost:
-2 gold cost (first round lost)
-1 gold cost (second round lost)
no changes (third round lost)
+1 gold cost (4th round lost)
+2 gold cost (5th round lost and other winners)
-2 gold cost (first round lost)
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Re: War Of The Gods, its a good day to post here feedback.
New version 2.7.5.7.6 of WOTG is out! Units cost changing/balancing depends of the second Tournament of WOTG has been done. No new units. Go get it now ;D!
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Re: War Of The Gods, its a good day to post here feedback.
As a bonus fight I'm thinking about setting game with top 3 fractions from both Tournaments but should I do this 1 vs 1 (1st vs 1st, 2nd vs 2nd, 3rd vs 3rd) or a team fight 3 top vs 3 top fractions? Maybe both options? What do you think guys?
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Re: War Of The Gods, its a good day to post here feedback.
Top 1 fight of both Tournaments (Jinns vs Fire-Empire).
Below replay of the battle: Who won
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Below replay of the battle: Who won
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Re: War Of The Gods, its a good day to post here feedback.
Top 2 fight of both Tournaments (Prussians vs Gremlins).
Below replay of the battle: Who won
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Below replay of the battle: Who won
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Re: War Of The Gods, its a good day to post here feedback.
Top 3 fight of both Tournaments (Welkins vs Daishan).
Below replay of the battle: Who won
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Below replay of the battle: Who won
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Re: War Of The Gods, its a good day to post here feedback.
Looks interesting how you can balance certain underpowered around all WOTG lv1's by lowering their price (most notable cases BEEM's units, Yokkais, Cults, Devlings), still this does not fix anything in lv2 or lv3 versions having both pricement issues and XP overprices.
You also need a plan to balance lv2 to higher levels because with this type of tests you will only find a band-aid fix to lv0 and lv1 but not for the greater level ones.
You also need a plan to balance lv2 to higher levels because with this type of tests you will only find a band-aid fix to lv0 and lv1 but not for the greater level ones.
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Re: War Of The Gods, its a good day to post here feedback.
New version of WOTG is out! Version 2.7.5.7.7 with 2 new factions Guardians and Orcs Men. Go get it now guys
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Re: War Of The Gods, its a good day to post here feedback.
New version of WOTG is out!
Version 2.7.5.7.8!
New factions:
- menagerie
- phoenixians
- thief-saurians
- saurians
- undeads-saurians
- desert-saurians
- deep-saurians.
Right now its 192 factions and nearly 5700 units!
Also Im thinking of making another WOTG Tournament but I'm not sure which option is better?
a) 2 lvl leaders, small maps, small amount of gold,
b) 3 lvl leaders, big maps, big amount of gold?
Which option do you prefer guys?
Version 2.7.5.7.8!
New factions:
- menagerie
- phoenixians
- thief-saurians
- saurians
- undeads-saurians
- desert-saurians
- deep-saurians.
Right now its 192 factions and nearly 5700 units!
Also Im thinking of making another WOTG Tournament but I'm not sure which option is better?
a) 2 lvl leaders, small maps, small amount of gold,
b) 3 lvl leaders, big maps, big amount of gold?
Which option do you prefer guys?
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Re: War Of The Gods, its a good day to post here feedback.
Third WOTG Tournament has started! 192 factions that gonna fight on big maps with a lot of gold and 3 lvl leaders! Below is list of the couples for each match.
First fight of first round:
rovahrian_elves (winner)
heavenly-knights Second fight of first round:
jinns (winner)
khthons Third fight of first round:
tumens (winner)
austrians Next fight of first round:
steelhives (winner)
ceresians Next fight of first round:
khalifates
black-blood-alliances (winner) Next fight of first round:
lycans
demons-monsters (winner)
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rovahrian_elves (winner)
heavenly-knights Second fight of first round:
jinns (winner)
khthons Third fight of first round:
tumens (winner)
austrians Next fight of first round:
steelhives (winner)
ceresians Next fight of first round:
khalifates
black-blood-alliances (winner) Next fight of first round:
lycans
demons-monsters (winner)
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Re: War Of The Gods, its a good day to post here feedback.
Next fight of first round:
gremlins
despairs (winner) Next fight of first round:
natives
red-mechanical-orcs (winner) Next fight of first round:
devlings (winner)
elementals Next fight of first round:
deep-saurians
therians (winner) Next fight of first round:
khaganates
kuandigin (winner) Next fight of first round:
empires
untameds (winner)
gremlins
despairs (winner) Next fight of first round:
natives
red-mechanical-orcs (winner) Next fight of first round:
devlings (winner)
elementals Next fight of first round:
deep-saurians
therians (winner) Next fight of first round:
khaganates
kuandigin (winner) Next fight of first round:
empires
untameds (winner)
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Re: War Of The Gods, its a good day to post here feedback.
Next fight of first round:
turks
seamen (winner) Next fight of first round:
avians
rainy (winner) Next fight of first round:
northguards-monsters
slavs (winner) Next fight of first round:
sidhes (winner)
brungars Next fight of first round:
highlanders2 (winner)
lux Next fight of first round:
elves-dark (2) (winner)
slavers
turks
seamen (winner) Next fight of first round:
avians
rainy (winner) Next fight of first round:
northguards-monsters
slavs (winner) Next fight of first round:
sidhes (winner)
brungars Next fight of first round:
highlanders2 (winner)
lux Next fight of first round:
elves-dark (2) (winner)
slavers
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Next fight of first round:
saurians (winner)
orderlings Next fight of first round:
tribesmans (winner)
mauve_islands_federation Next fight of first round:
farengarian_dwarves_counties (winner)
drakes Next fight of first round:
thief-saurians
morkenost_darfenlend (winner) Next fight of first round:
lavinians (winner)
dwarves Next fight of first round:
sky-kingdoms (winner)
hivebroods
saurians (winner)
orderlings Next fight of first round:
tribesmans (winner)
mauve_islands_federation Next fight of first round:
farengarian_dwarves_counties (winner)
drakes Next fight of first round:
thief-saurians
morkenost_darfenlend (winner) Next fight of first round:
lavinians (winner)
dwarves Next fight of first round:
sky-kingdoms (winner)
hivebroods
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Re: War Of The Gods, its a good day to post here feedback.
It's known that some factions does pretty well but only in big maps or randomly generated terrains. Usually at this type of maps having good movement costs matters more than health resistances or raw movement (but trash movement costs for example loy calvarymen).
Not impressed that OG devlings crushed their first opponents, because while OG devling if individually weak, they're pretty strong in spams because of the insanely low upkeep armies making them snowball really well in bigger maps as long as the economic aspect is limiting both sides of a fight.
Usually human armies like loyalist does quite deficient compared to other factions like rebels or knalga because having issues with movement cost which costs them mid game expansion and the difference of village control and incomes usually runs against them making them quite worse than most default factions in big randomly generated maps .... with exception of one faction that does worse in this conditions ... which are undead...
I'm expecting factions like all dark elves doing significantly better than some others as loy, but just gonna comment that you should buff factions only if their loss is really big compared to the opponent that defeated them.... like if the match was very close it could been just bad luck that they lost their matchs.... just consider how close each match been to consider how much you have to alter the prices or the stats in these units.
Not impressed that OG devlings crushed their first opponents, because while OG devling if individually weak, they're pretty strong in spams because of the insanely low upkeep armies making them snowball really well in bigger maps as long as the economic aspect is limiting both sides of a fight.
Usually human armies like loyalist does quite deficient compared to other factions like rebels or knalga because having issues with movement cost which costs them mid game expansion and the difference of village control and incomes usually runs against them making them quite worse than most default factions in big randomly generated maps .... with exception of one faction that does worse in this conditions ... which are undead...
I'm expecting factions like all dark elves doing significantly better than some others as loy, but just gonna comment that you should buff factions only if their loss is really big compared to the opponent that defeated them.... like if the match was very close it could been just bad luck that they lost their matchs.... just consider how close each match been to consider how much you have to alter the prices or the stats in these units.
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Re: War Of The Gods, its a good day to post here feedback.
Next fight of first round:
regis (winner)
flesh-contagions Next fight of first round:
minotaurs
dardo (winner) Next fight of first round:
legion (winner)
khaganates2 Next fight of first round:
humans2 (winner)
stickmens Next fight of first round:
blades-country (winner)
shadows Next fight of first round:
dwarves-default (winner)
altaris
regis (winner)
flesh-contagions Next fight of first round:
minotaurs
dardo (winner) Next fight of first round:
legion (winner)
khaganates2 Next fight of first round:
humans2 (winner)
stickmens Next fight of first round:
blades-country (winner)
shadows Next fight of first round:
dwarves-default (winner)
altaris
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