Descent into Darkness revised

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Descent into Darkness revised

Post by nemaara » January 7th, 2019, 6:20 am

Hi everyone, I'm doing a revision of Descent into Darkness that aims to revise the dialogue and (slightly) the gameplay. You can see the revisions here: https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/projects/3.

There's also a voiceover project for DiD that's being discussed here: http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php ... 0&start=45.

Any suggestions and comments are welcome.

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Re: Descent into Darkness revised

Post by The_Gnat » January 7th, 2019, 7:08 am

Great to see this getting started! Good work so far :)

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Re: Descent into Darkness revised

Post by nemaara » February 8th, 2019, 3:45 am

A working version of the revised campaign is now on the add-on server. You can get it from there if you want to playtest. :0

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Re: Descent into Darkness revised

Post by max_torch » February 8th, 2019, 4:00 am

Are there major dialog differences between hard and easy? I would prefer to playtest in easy.

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Re: Descent into Darkness revised

Post by nemaara » February 8th, 2019, 5:01 am

They are exactly the same, I think (if there are differences, they'd be very very small).

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Re: Descent into Darkness revised

Post by Konrad2 » February 8th, 2019, 4:33 pm

Some replays.
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DiDr-Orc War replay.gz
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DiDr-Saving Parthyn replay.gz
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DiDr-Peaceful Valley replay.gz
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DiDr-A Haunting in Winter replay.gz
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DiDr-Outset of Vengeance replay.gz
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Re: Descent into Darkness revised

Post by Konrad2 » February 9th, 2019, 3:58 pm

More replays.
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DiDr-Alone at Last replay.gz
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DiDr-A Small Favor — Part 2 replay.gz
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DiDr-A Small Favor — Part 3 replay.gz
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DiDr-A Small Favor replay.gz
More like 'Raiding Tath'.
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Re: Descent into Darkness revised

Post by nemaara » February 9th, 2019, 7:26 pm

A small update for S11:
Spoiler:

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Re: Descent into Darkness revised

Post by Konrad2 » February 10th, 2019, 9:45 am

And my (almost) last replays.
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DiDr-Endless Night 3 replay.gz
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DiDr-Endless Night 4 replay.gz
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DiDr-Endless Night 2 replay.gz
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DiDr-Endless Night 1 replay.gz
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DiDr-Descent into Darkness replay.gz
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Re: Descent into Darkness revised

Post by Konrad2 » February 10th, 2019, 11:16 pm

It's a surprise replay.
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Re: Descent into Darkness revised

Post by WanderingHero » February 10th, 2019, 11:59 pm

What does this change exactly?

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Re: Descent into Darkness revised

Post by josteph » February 11th, 2019, 1:48 pm

WanderingHero wrote:
February 10th, 2019, 11:59 pm
What does this change exactly?
All scenarios have new/changed dialog. There are also gameplay changes: S3 and S11 have been rewritten, other scenarios were updated. nemaara should be able to elaborate. Here's a diffstat (showing how many lines changed).

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 data/campaigns/Descent_Into_Darkness/_main.cfg                                 |   25 +-
 data/campaigns/Descent_Into_Darkness/images/items/potion-clear.png             |  Bin 0 -> 1277 bytes
 data/campaigns/Descent_Into_Darkness/lua/skip_animations.lua                   |   25 +
 data/campaigns/Descent_Into_Darkness/maps/01_Saving_Parthyn.map                |   44 +-
 data/campaigns/Descent_Into_Darkness/maps/02_Peaceful_Valley.map               |   38 +-
 data/campaigns/Descent_Into_Darkness/maps/03_A_Haunting_in_Winter.map          |   44 +-
 data/campaigns/Descent_Into_Darkness/maps/04_Beginning_of_the_Revenge.map      |   65 +-
 data/campaigns/Descent_Into_Darkness/maps/05_Orc_War.map                       |   65 +-
 data/campaigns/Descent_Into_Darkness/maps/06_Return_to_Parthyn.map             |   50 +-
 data/campaigns/Descent_Into_Darkness/maps/07_A_Small_Favor.map                 |   59 +-
 data/campaigns/Descent_Into_Darkness/maps/08_A_Small_Favor2.map                |   44 +-
 data/campaigns/Descent_Into_Darkness/maps/09_A_Small_Favor3.map                |   44 +-
 data/campaigns/Descent_Into_Darkness/maps/10_Alone_at_Last.map                 |   54 +-
 data/campaigns/Descent_Into_Darkness/maps/11_Descent_into_Darkness.map         |   74 +--
 data/campaigns/Descent_Into_Darkness/maps/11a_Descent_into_Darkness.map        |   21 +
 data/campaigns/Descent_Into_Darkness/maps/12_Endless_Night.map                 |   59 +-
 data/campaigns/Descent_Into_Darkness/maps/12a_Endless_Night.map                |   52 ++
 data/campaigns/Descent_Into_Darkness/scenarios/01_Saving_Parthyn.cfg           |  258 ++++++--
 data/campaigns/Descent_Into_Darkness/scenarios/02_Peaceful_Valley.cfg          |   84 ++-
 data/campaigns/Descent_Into_Darkness/scenarios/03_A_Haunting_in_Winter.cfg     | 1170 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++------
 data/campaigns/Descent_Into_Darkness/scenarios/04_Beginning_of_the_Revenge.cfg |  129 ++--
 data/campaigns/Descent_Into_Darkness/scenarios/05_Orc_War.cfg                  |   96 ++-
 data/campaigns/Descent_Into_Darkness/scenarios/06_Return_to_Parthyn.cfg        |  487 ++++++++++++--
 data/campaigns/Descent_Into_Darkness/scenarios/07_A_Small_Favor.cfg            |  475 +++++++++++---
 data/campaigns/Descent_Into_Darkness/scenarios/08_A_Small_Favor2.cfg           |  702 ++++++++++++++++++--
 data/campaigns/Descent_Into_Darkness/scenarios/09_A_Small_Favor3.cfg           |  666 ++++++++++++++++---
 data/campaigns/Descent_Into_Darkness/scenarios/10_Alone_at_Last.cfg            |  499 +++++++++-----
 data/campaigns/Descent_Into_Darkness/scenarios/11_Descent_into_Darkness.cfg    | 4378 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++-------------
 data/campaigns/Descent_Into_Darkness/scenarios/12_Endless_Night.cfg            | 1075 ++++++++++++++++++++++++------
 data/campaigns/Descent_Into_Darkness/utils/bigmap.cfg                          |   36 +-
 data/campaigns/Descent_Into_Darkness/utils/deaths.cfg                          |   18 +-
Spoiler:

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Re: Descent into Darkness revised

Post by max_torch » February 11th, 2019, 2:38 pm

Konrad2, thanks for the replays ill just watch those. and compare it to my replays of DiD before the revision.

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Re: Descent into Darkness revised

Post by Konrad2 » February 11th, 2019, 5:09 pm

Nothing new happening here.
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DiDr-Endless Night 6 replay.gz
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DiDr-Endless Night 7 replay.gz
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DiDr-Endless Night 8 replay.gz
Just getting tired of dealing with people. Leave me alone. :(
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Re: Descent into Darkness revised

Post by white_haired_uncle » February 23rd, 2019, 5:27 pm

Played on easy. There were a couple of early levels with orcs that I'd like to see their income taken down a bit. They just kept recruiting at least as fast as I could kill them, so of course as soon as I had a turn or two of bad luck it was all over.

It seems to me that this is a campaign where if you fall behind in one scenario you're pretty much going to be playing from behind the whole way with little to no chance to recover. I can't quantify that, it's just a feeling that I got towards the end.
WARNING: I suck at BFW, I'm usually barely paying attention, and I often like to try stupid things just to see what happens. Then I cheat. Watching my replays is known to the State of California to cause permanent mental injury.

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