Lords of the North, version 0.0.2 ready! (1.8)

[styles1005]

Version 0.0.2 is on the add-ons server and (hopefully) bug-free! There's not much done, but please give feedback.

EDIT: Updated version 0.0.2 is there!

[Anonymissimus]

Just in case you try building a campaign from scratch: That won't work. Start with e.g. A simple campaign (see my signature) instead. Modify it slightly (e.g. change some message= string) and test instantly; if it no longer works, go back.

[styles1005]

Actually, I'm working from a slightly more complex starting point: The Ice Age. It was the nearest campaign in the add-ons folder to the campaign's original name. It's probably not the best one to start from, but I can check it against others when I get bugs. By the way, I've finally come up with the new name: Lords of the North. I've also rethought a bit of the story.

[Mountain_King]

Ice Age? *perks up and raises eyebrow* What does that mean? hmmmmmm.

[styles1005]

Yup. The one by you. It's an old version, but I managed to play through it and found no bugs (as far as I can remember, anyway,) so it should work well enough. In any case, I've changed my model to HttT; I figured a mainline campaign wouldn't have any problems.

EDIT: By the way, I've just now finished the first scenario's coding (yay for me!) and need a map. That's right. I'm lousy at mapmaking, so if anybody could help/direct me to someone who could help, it would be greatly appreciated.

[Mountain_King]

What kind of map? As you probably know, I have several snowy ones. So does BMR, come to think of it.

[styles1005]

A swamp one, actually. I'm thinking of having a few spokes of land going from place to place, though.

[sur.nhm]

A swamp one, actually. I'm thinking of having a few spokes of land going from place to place, though.

You can modifiy that swamp map from TRoW.

[styles1005]

Really? I didn't know there was a swamp map in TRoW. Thanks for the advice.

EDIT: Two things.

1) Do you mean "A Beach"? If so, actually that seems like it would be better served as scenario 3's map.

2) Errr . . . How would I edit it? I have no idea.

EDIT 2: Ah, you probably meant "The River Road." That would work.

EDIT 3: Ok, so apparently I'm not as bad as I make myself out to be - I've created my own map. Now, to test out the scenario!

EDIT 4: Yeah, I'm edit-happy. Anyway, it's not working. I corrected a whole bunch of missing/incorrect closing tags and a thing where I had LotN in some places, and LoTN in others, added the starting gold for the sides, and corrected the incorrect format of the difficulty-based starting gold. Now it's giving me this error message:

An error due to possibly invalid WML occurred
The error message is :
A map without a header is not supported

When reporting the bug please include the following error message :
Condition '!(header_offset == std::string::npos || comma_offset < header_offset)' failed at src/map.cpp:163 in function 'read'.


Due to this error message, I compared my .map file for this scenario to that of HttT scenario 1 and found no differences (aside from the obvious different map.) I'm using Windows Vista, if that helps.

[vcap]

An error due to possibly invalid WML occurred
The error message is :
A map without a header is not supported

When reporting the bug please include the following error message :
Condition '!(header_offset == std::string::npos || comma_offset < header_offset)' failed at src/map.cpp:163 in function 'read'.

Sound suspiciously like a lowercase/uppercase mismatch.

Make sure that if your map is named Mymap.map in windows, you call it Mymap.map in the scenario 'mapdata='; not mymap.map, MyMap.map, or mYmAp.MaP. This problem doesn't usually happen on windows (when asked for a file by an application it tries to to serve the closest match case-wise), but is systematic on linux and (i guess) on mac.

[styles1005]

An error due to possibly invalid WML occurred
The error message is :
A map without a header is not supported

When reporting the bug please include the following error message :
Condition '!(header_offset == std::string::npos || comma_offset < header_offset)' failed at src/map.cpp:163 in function 'read'.

Sound suspiciously like a lowercase/uppercase mismatch.

Make sure that if your map is named Mymap.map in windows, you call it Mymap.map in the scenario 'mapdata='; not mymap.map, MyMap.map, or mYmAp.MaP. This problem doesn't usually happen on windows (when asked for a file by an application it tries to to serve the closest match case-wise), but is systematic on linux and (i guess) on mac.

Nope. I just checked; in the scenario mapdata= (which is actually map_data= for me; could that be it? I'll check in just a second.) it's "{~add-ons/Lords of the North/maps/LotN_01_Murky_Swamp.map}"; the name of the .map file is LotN_01_Murky_Swamp. Wait just a second . . . I don't know if . . . nope. It wasn't saved as a .map file. Lemme see if that solved it.

EDIT: Nope. No difference - it gives me the same error. Let me check out the map_data/mapdata thing.

EDIT 2: Nope. It said "Map not found" this time.

[vcap]

Nope. I just checked; in the scenario mapdata= (which is actually map_data= for me; could that be it? I'll check in just a second.)

You're right, it's map_data, not mapdata.

it's "{~add-ons/Lords of the North/maps/LotN_01_Murky_Swamp.map}"; the name of the .map file is LotN_01_Murky_Swamp. Wait just a second . . . I don't know if . . . nope. It wasn't saved as a .map file. Lemme see if that solved it.

Not sure if it could cause this problem, but whitespaces in filepath is not a good idea. The "Lords of the North" directory should be renamed "Lords_of_the_North" and _main.cfg changed accordingly.

[styles1005]

Wait a second . . . it is Lords_of_the_North. It's wrong in the scenario. Thanks! I'll see if that works.

EDIT: It works! Some minor adjustments are in order, but it works!

[vcap]

btw, i tried and having whitespaces in the directory name itself doesn't work. It would have caused a different error (unknown scenario), though. Apparently something breaks its arguments across whitespaces, so that the game eventually tries to get '.../add-ons/Lords' instead of '.../add-ons/Lords of the North/scenarios/somefile'.

[styles1005]

And . . . there are more problems. I swear, you spend more time debugging this stuff than actually writing it! I tested it last night, and, first of all, the Saurian (allied) leader starts running to the top-left corner of the map. I gave him

[ai]
passive_leader=yes
[/ai]

in the [side] definition, but he still does it. He doesn't even recruit first!

Second, I realized that it was a little odd to have the Naga leader saying "Humansss! They mussst have come to aid the sssauriansssss! Kill them!" when you can't even see him, so I removed the fog, but 1) that necessitates a name change for the sssscenario (sorry, I had to) and 2) it really doesn't fit with my vision of the scenario. Thus, I'm wondering if there's a way to code it so that, when you first see the Naga/they first see you, it has the unit you see say it. I know the second part's possible (having the unit involved in an event speak), but I don't know about the first (triggering an event upon seeing an enemy).