Generic Orc portraits

[Sgt. Groovy]

I must admit I might be somewhat "contaminated" by the skull symbol. My 5 years old nephew is very much into pirates and he has skull pictures on everything. At one point he flat out refused to wear anything that didn't have skulls on it (including underwear).

[JW]

I must admit I might be somewhat "contaminated" by the skull symbol. My 5 years old nephew is very much into pirates and he has skull pictures on everything. At one point he flat out refused to wear anything that didn't have skulls on it (including underwear).

Well that's simply ridiculous. Get that boy into ninjas ASAP.

[Boucman]

[*] The skull and crossbones is a too overused a symbol. Try and come up with something more original.[/list]

I think it works here. Orcs aren't the most original race afterall. They're not known for their free and artistic thinking. They're not the most clever species. Etc. etc.

well, I find the black-eye symbol both elegant by simplicity and original

I don't think they would do elaborated symbols, but I think they still could be creative

and I'm afraid that the skull+bones is really too wired to pirates in the common intelect to pretend it's not there

[JW]

and I'm afraid that the skull+bones is really too wired to pirates in the common intelect to pretend it's not there

Well then maybe I'm the anti-Sgt. Groovy, because I definitely don't think of pirates when I see the image. I do hate pirates though, so perhaps I'm wired to avoid thinking of them.

[thespaceinvader]

The problem with the Black Eye symbol is that it's specific to onw tribe of wesnoth orcs in one particular time period - it's not a generic symbol. Maybe we'd be better steering clear of symbols at all for the generics...

[DUHH]

If he´s not a generic, he could be the North Alliance Orc captain in tHoT. Then he would probably have a North Alliance symbol painted on.

[thespaceinvader]

Ooh, that could work =)

We don't really need a portrait for him, though.

Symbol-less, he'd make a great Orc Leader line generic - they have the open face helm, and single sword. Feel free to work him up as that, or wait for LordBob to have a go at him if you prefer =) That course of action would certainly get my vote =D

[Sgt. Groovy]

Get that boy into ninjas ASAP.

Well, he's already on his way into Star Wars. Last time I was babysitting I made him a Darth Vader helmet out of cardboard. Khhh -- Phhh.

[DUHH]

Ooh, that could work =)

We don't really need a portrait for him, though.

Symbol-less, he'd make a great Orc Leader line generic - they have the open face helm, and single sword. Feel free to work him up as that, or wait for LordBob to have a go at him if you prefer =) That course of action would certainly get my vote =D

I could do the symbol as a layer of it´s own, so it´s easilly removed/changed.

I was thinking of finishing it myself, but getting LordBob to do it sounds intruiging. If he´s willing, then I´d certainly want to see it.

I would like to finish off the sketch first.

[thespaceinvader]

That sounds like an idea =)

Feel free to finish it or wait as you like =)

[kitty]

great sketch, DUHH - detailwise too far from the sprite, but certainly usable as a portrait for a specific unit or an alternate for the warlords.
thus finish him and he'll be the generic one till somebody does a warlord more fitting with the sprite and stay in as an alternate afterwards.

and yes, the skull and the skull and crossbones are very overused, nothing bad with that - it would just be a lot cooler if you came up with something orc specific, like our elves have a specific pattern, the dwarves share the shape of the pauldrons and another pattern, the loys have their coat of arms etc. make them your own by adding your own bit to them - give him a culture not just the generic bad guy symbol set.

[SouthernOracle]

Bone symbolism could still be used without evoking the pirate heraldry, such as a skull in profile with skeletal hands or an orcish symbol centered in a rib cage, etc. There's plenty of bones to choose from...

[LordBob]

DUHH, your orc's awesome. Still I really think you should work him to Wesnoth orc anatomy standards : the way he is now, it feels like he's not quite the same species as the grunt.

What would work best, I think, is to use your portrait for the Orc Leader line while I focus on the Grunt line. This way you get to draw several portraits and both lines will gain consistency from having a single artist.

Portrait-wise, my hands are currently full with the loyalists (have to finish the riders). Nevertheless I'd certainly like to shade a portrait based on your lines. Cooperating on those orcs might work wonders and be faster : one for the lines, one for the shading ; we can experiment that if you wish. Do what you feel is best, it'll be a few weeks before I can take the orcs full-time

[DUHH]

Thanks all!

The orc was imagined as something for the Leader-line, not the grunt-line.

Fixed most of the complaints. Didn´t do much with the mouth/muzzle, because it was actually quite protruding in the original sketch. But it´s quite hard to see at the angle and with the helmet.

Also fixed the symbol on the shoulder. A lot more original and scary now.

LordBob: I´ll focus on the dwarves for theHoT for now, and will pick up the orc again when I´m done. If you get done with the loyalists before I´m done with the dwarves, and you want to do some colors for my orc, then PM me and I´ll send you the high-res line-art.

[thespaceinvader]

=D

I'd say the face could still do with protruding a touch more, but other than that, this guy is good to go for whoever's colouring. MLP orcs FTW!