The Dread Bat

[Scubaforce]

I was looking at the 1.6 unit list and I wasn't really feeling the dread bat. The bat always seemed like a scout to me, and the blood bat was just a little better at it, having more mp and hp, but this new bat looks like it could easily be overpowered especially with the size of the attack (6-4) + healing for half the damage... I think this unit is just a little too unbalancing in the undead's favour, especially with them already having ghouls(best unit ever).

I would never propose a unit change under normal circumstances but since this unit isn't out in the stable version yet, and what it does for the undead, It seemed necessary to me.

[Golbeeze]

First, do you play much with the undead? Have you actually used the bat in the latest versions? I don't want to turn the discussion into this, but the Ghoul is not the "best unit ever." The bat isn't exactly a power unit to begin with. It is a fragile level 0 and if you allow the enemy to level it up, it's your own fault. I think the bat deserves the level 2 powerup because they just didn't have staying power as it was.

[TL]

The dread bat's attack is exactly as strong as the wraith's, and wraiths are generally easier to get.

[kyi_the_bard]

The dread bat's attack is exactly as strong as the wraith's, and wraiths are generally easier to get.

Except, not arcane. So in most cases, the wraith has a better attack.

[Mabuse]

the dread bat lose 10% terrain def

[TheMasterOfBattle]

I don't see it on the unit list getting less terrain defense. But anyway, considering it needs 70 xp to level to it, I am sure you could be pouring your xp to better units.

[IB]

I agree with the op. Remove the ghoul as it is the best unit EVAR.

[woodmouse]

I agree with the op. Remove the ghoul as it is the best unit EVAR.

That would ruin the whole idea of playing with undead! :/

[Mabuse]

I don't see it on the unit list getting less terrain defense.

oh, ok then i am wrong.

i just had the dread bat from EE in mind, which lost 10% Terrain def (which was pretty lame, and one of the worser upgrades )

so if it doesnt lose 10% def then its actually useful

[cobra]

I agree with the op. Remove the ghoul as it is the best unit EVAR.

That would ruin the whole idea of playing with undead! :/

Hmmm, I think not. If anything the skeletons are a good reason to play undead.

But anyway, back on topic, The dread bat is a great unit for the undead.