EI - Evacuation: Frustration level critical.
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EI - Evacuation: Frustration level critical.
Well, I guess the thread's title says it all.
I am up to Evacuation on Eastern Invasion. Apparently I will lose all units that I don't recall. As I have only 100 gold that means I can only take five units with me.
I hate to whine but I think this combination simply isn't fair to the player. It robs you of your leveled units no matter how well you play or even what luck you get.
I can think of three possible ways to address this (percieved) problem:
1. In Captured, change the mechanics so that you don't have to pay upkeep (after all, in that situation your men are fighting for themselves as much as you). This way you should still have a decent amount of gold with which to save more units in Evacuation.
2. In Evacuation allow units that dont get recalled to 'survive' (be recallable in the next level).
3. In Evacuation, auto-recall some units for free. (Like in the HttT levels Muff-Malals Peninsula, or Northern Winter)
On the other hand, if there is some good reason why this situation is allowed, please explain it and I shall promtly shut up.
Thank you .
I am up to Evacuation on Eastern Invasion. Apparently I will lose all units that I don't recall. As I have only 100 gold that means I can only take five units with me.
- As it is my recall list is pretty sad:
- 1x Iron Mauler
- 1x Royal Guard
- 1x Silver Mage
- 2x Dragoon
- 1x Knight
- 2x Ogre
- 1x Pikeman
- 4x Shock Trooper (yes, I like my thumpers )
- 1x Swordsman
- 2x White Mage
- a couple of level 1's (cavaly and young ogre)
I hate to whine but I think this combination simply isn't fair to the player. It robs you of your leveled units no matter how well you play or even what luck you get.
I can think of three possible ways to address this (percieved) problem:
1. In Captured, change the mechanics so that you don't have to pay upkeep (after all, in that situation your men are fighting for themselves as much as you). This way you should still have a decent amount of gold with which to save more units in Evacuation.
2. In Evacuation allow units that dont get recalled to 'survive' (be recallable in the next level).
3. In Evacuation, auto-recall some units for free. (Like in the HttT levels Muff-Malals Peninsula, or Northern Winter)
On the other hand, if there is some good reason why this situation is allowed, please explain it and I shall promtly shut up.
Thank you .
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If I knew how to turn off upkeep in Captured, I would. But I don't, so I just stuck on some villages and tried to make it balanced.
If you only have 100 gold at the start of Evacuation... perhaps you need to replay Captured?
In any case, I'll be looking to rebalance EI sometime in the (perhaps not so) near future.
If you only have 100 gold at the start of Evacuation... perhaps you need to replay Captured?
In any case, I'll be looking to rebalance EI sometime in the (perhaps not so) near future.
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Indeed, I do know this. But I haven't taken the time to do it yet, and in any case I don't think its the right thing to do - it will make the gold you get from the orcish villages worthless.joshudson wrote:You know, you could just store the gold when the scenario starts, and restore it at the end.
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Something like :turin wrote:If I knew how to turn off upkeep in Captured, I would. But I don't, so I just stuck on some villages and tried to make it balanced..
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Well, it looks like you're in a prime position to hack the stupid orcs on the bridge to pieces. And then to go kill the leaders.Underdog wrote:So that means that I have to do this scenario again?
If not for that stupid time limit, anyway...
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I found out why I was having such trouble with Evacuation. It's something fishy in Captured.
There is something weird with the early-finish bonus in the previous level.
I played Captured again and finished at turn 25. When I finished the level I had 145 gold. However despite finishing 15 turns early, I got no early-finish gold bonus, none at all.
This means I go into the next level with a pathetic 116 gold. However if I just wait until the last turn to end Captured, I go into Evacuation with a tidy 520 gold.
As I understand it, the early-finish bonus is supposed to give more gold then waiting for turns to expire, thus saving players the trouble of hitting 'end turn' twenty times to ensure their finances.
So unless I am very much mistaken, this is a seriously irritating hitch in Captured which is making Evacuation a problem. This may have something to do with changes in 1.1.1...?
Anyway, I think it requires attention. (hint hint)
There is something weird with the early-finish bonus in the previous level.
I played Captured again and finished at turn 25. When I finished the level I had 145 gold. However despite finishing 15 turns early, I got no early-finish gold bonus, none at all.
This means I go into the next level with a pathetic 116 gold. However if I just wait until the last turn to end Captured, I go into Evacuation with a tidy 520 gold.
As I understand it, the early-finish bonus is supposed to give more gold then waiting for turns to expire, thus saving players the trouble of hitting 'end turn' twenty times to ensure their finances.
So unless I am very much mistaken, this is a seriously irritating hitch in Captured which is making Evacuation a problem. This may have something to do with changes in 1.1.1...?
Anyway, I think it requires attention. (hint hint)
Aye. In SVN now, Captured gives the bonus when you win the level the way you're supposed to. Evacuation should be a tad easier now...
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