Mountain Trolls - critics please

nonobots · Post by **nonobots** » October 3rd, 2005, 1:53 am

Here come some mountain trolls.

I'm having great fun creating trolls for my campaign. I'm slowly getting used to working with sprites. It had been a long time since I flexed my Photoshop muscle like that.

It's a weapon mod and some fur on the Troll. For the Great Troll I needed an armor upgrade and weapon upgrate for my campaign... here comes Bru haul... and his path of upgrades.

Tell me what you think.

nonobots · Post by **nonobots** » October 3rd, 2005, 4:26 am

Mountain goblin!

This is more than just a coloring. I tried to redo the goblin's clothes. I started by redrawing the goblin's body (with shorts), than I made a fur coat for an eventual upgrade, and additional details for a third level.

I'm glad of how the color and shading came out.

I'll try and see what I can do for the weapon and animation...

dalk · Post by **dalk** » October 3rd, 2005, 4:19 pm

hehe, cool

Only i think the troll's spears are a bit too big

But i like their dyed punk-like hair

Maybe make the clothes a little darker

unsung · Post by **unsung** » October 3rd, 2005, 4:29 pm

I'd take the side point soff the spear fo rthe troll, other than that I think it looks pretty good.

Guillaume · Post by **Guillaume** » October 3rd, 2005, 4:32 pm

They look really good !
Great job

Tux2B · Post by **Tux2B** » October 3rd, 2005, 5:43 pm

The spear may indeed seem a bit too big. But it's great.

nonobots · Post by **nonobots** » October 3rd, 2005, 6:33 pm

Trolls need HUGE spears. Bigger than an polearm.
The point could be rougher though - it's just a big pointy rock.

Post by **Neoriceisgood** » October 3rd, 2005, 7:00 pm

The armour is way to light, you aught to add a thicker outline to make it fit in with wesnoth, and more importantly, the rest of the unit more;

The spears aren't to large; they're just not done right.

Disto · Post by **Disto** » October 3rd, 2005, 7:05 pm

Neoriceisgood wrote:The armour is way to light, you aught to add a thicker outline to make it fit in with wesnoth, and more importantly, the rest of the unit more;

The spears aren't to large; they're just not done right.

The "armour" is fur.

Post by **Neoriceisgood** » October 3rd, 2005, 7:34 pm

That doesn't mean it should clash with the overall style/feel.

nonobots · Post by **nonobots** » October 3rd, 2005, 7:35 pm

Disto wrote:
Neoriceisgood wrote:The armour is way to light, you aught to add a thicker outline to make it fit in with wesnoth, and more importantly, the rest of the unit more;

The spears aren't to large; they're just not done right.
The "armour" is fur.

For the spears is it the shape of the spear or the way he's holding it? I'm planning on repositioning the beast... it's still in the 'club holding' position. But if the spear itself is problematic I'm all ears.

I'm aiming for something of a 'gentler' northerner side. It's not meant for a full-fledged faction, but for a campaign.

I still have to finalize my ideas on mountain trolls, but yes they have patches of fur on the head, shoulder, groin and thighs. They basically are a bit less aggressive than regular trolls, and have a 'partnership' with many goblins that prefer dumber gentler masters than the orcs.

Mountain trolls are more agile and less strong than their regular cousins. 10% better defense all-around and less damaging attacks.

Some mountain trolls are even gentler, and will try and take care of the 'fragile' life forms that surround them. The rare ones that survive will eventually become Shamans... For now I'm thinking they'll be old very hairy trolls with healing. Maybe Leadership on high-level. Those are what makes Mountain Trolls peculiar, the reason why they have more cultural identity than their more numerous cousins. They are wise and peaceful - for Trolls that is, they still are dumb and aggressive.

Their allied goblins will have specialisations also - still to be defined. Probably weaker than goblins but access to specialisation like backstab and marksman... because those goblin are more 'free' to develop their skills.

The intelligence in this micro faction comes from the cunning of the goblins tempered by the goals and pulsions of the Shamans. They mostly try to stay hidden from all the other orcs, moving their encampments if they need to. Staying high on snowy mountains where few will come and bother them. Sometime they will raid the surrounding with unusual efficiency for northeners, stealing more than pillaging.

nonobots · Post by **nonobots** » October 3rd, 2005, 7:42 pm

Neoriceisgood wrote:The spears aren't to large; they're just not done right.

Oh, I just got it, you're all talking about what the Great Troll is holding... It's not really a spear, it's ahem... er...

I don't know what it is. I guess it's the weapon some gang of goblins came up with. They call it "Da Big Weapon" and they thought more pointy rocks would be better than just one.

Eventually a magic gem is attached to it. And it becomes "Da Magical Big Weapon".

But he still is holding it funny.

Academicus · Post by **Academicus** » October 3rd, 2005, 7:56 pm

when you finish your faction I'll add them to the multiplayer era.

Post by **Neoriceisgood** » October 3rd, 2005, 7:57 pm

Here, because I love you.

nonobots · Post by **nonobots** » October 3rd, 2005, 8:34 pm

Neoriceisgood wrote:Here, because I love you.

I love it. The fur lost the whooly feeling, which I rather liked, but the skin color is WAY better. The spear is pixel perfect. But what can I say: Neoriceisgood is good.

I'll use it as a cherished source for my experimentation and learning.

Thanks a lot!