Female Wesnoth - Elves Misconceptions

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Re: Elvish Fighter - Female Variants

Post by ghype » November 7th, 2018, 1:59 pm

The following images are posted in order to clear several misconceptions regarding the differences of male/female elves in our current stage of wood-elves.

(1) High level male elves share all the same armour.
  • Champion, Marshal, Avenger (male) have the same "chest plate"
  • Hero and Ranger do too but is irrelevant since they are lv2
  • Assuming Captain does as well, but it is not visible due to its stance
  • Following .gif proofs my statement, focus is only on the chest which are identical to all 3 units shown.
    Exception is lower abdomen, which is the same, but moved 1px sideways to the Avenger due to stance:
  • _elve_chestplate.gif
    had to reposition sprites for having chest centered
    _elve_chestplate.gif (5.86 KiB) Viewed 8425 times
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(2) Differences between current male and female elves are very subtle
  • The only difference in Avenger or Ranger male/female is that shoulder are more narrow and hips is a bit more open or lower
  • Proof of of that are int he next to .gif
  • _elve_avenger_difference.gif
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  • _elve_ranger_difference.gif
    _elve_ranger_difference.gif (4.48 KiB) Viewed 8425 times
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(3) Sharpshooter is exception to both (1) and (2)
  • This line wears different chest clothing. I say clothing, because we can assume that that is no actual armour.
    This would explain the lower hp of this unit
  • Differences are not only in the stance, but also a thicker arm for the male or longer hair for the female
  • Proof of of that are int he next to .gif
  • _elve_sharpshooter_difference.gif
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Conclusion:
In summary we can say, if the chest armour of the male units (Marshal, Champion, Avenger) are identical, then so should be the chest armour for the female ones. Especially if there is already a consistency establish through out the lv2 Ranger and the lv3 Avenger.

In fact thats exactly what I did, I copied the female Avenger chest, pasted it to the male Marshall / Champion and recoloured it in order to rework the male unit into a female unit. Further more I narrowed the shoulders 1px on both sides and lowered the hips too. I even lengthen the hair of both, which doesn't happen at the Avenger or Ranger line.

So I can say that my changes are very lore-friendly and following the non-existing protocol based on the existing male/female elves. Of course I could have done more, but I didn't want to over-do them. I wanted to stay as close to the existing changes as possible. If you still have concerns, you can state them now.

Thanks for your time.

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Re: Female Wesnoth - Elves Misconceptions

Post by GunChleoc » November 7th, 2018, 6:06 pm

Now that I look at your sprite comparisons, the male armor has highlights on the chest as well - I guess it's the small scale of the sprites that put me on the wrong track with my comment.

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Re: Elvish Fighter - Female Variants

Post by The_Gnat » November 7th, 2018, 8:10 pm

ghype wrote:
November 7th, 2018, 1:59 pm
The following images are posted in order to clear several misconceptions regarding the differences of male/female elves in our current stage of wood-elves.
8) Nice post! I love the careful comparison and totally agree with what you are doing!

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