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The Ravagers - NEW SP campaign - [Feedback and development]

Postby WhiteWolf » December 21st, 2016, 11:48 pm

Welcome, and Merry Christmas to all,
The Ravagers is now uploaded to the add-ons server, and it is ripe for download.

Short Summary
The Ravagers is a tale of pure revenge. A tale of justice served cold, told in a flashback-style point-of-view narrative, by a ranger in the Inn at Weldyn.
The campaign includes many new exciting gameplay features, hundreds of custom units, and many more.

Screenshots
battle_at_the_burning_river.png
bloody clash

More screenshots:


Story Introduction
In days of yore I swore to slay all four of thee. To have no mercy once I found you, and to kill you the same way you had killed yons whom I loved. Three lives've been extinguished, thine is the last. Finally, lo your life throbbing at the end of my knife! My vow shall be fulfilled as the light in thy eyes goes out, when the last of the four murderers shall be slain...
These are the words of Dayton Blackwood, once the leader of the outlaw gang, The Ravagers. This tale will embark you on his journey of blood and sorrow, taking place entirely on the Farnorthern Continent, where orcish warchiefs rise and fall in chaos, brother betrays brother, and the forces of evil never sleep.
Take on the enemy while enjoying your drink in the pub, and witness the stories of the ranger.

Difficulty
The campaign has been balanced out for Intermediate level, with 4 difficulties, ranging from easy to the nightmarish legend.
While providing feedback, please include which difficulty you played on!

Long list of features
  • Corpses left over on the battlefield
  • Units bleeding, including skeletons dropping bones
  • Injured units leave blood trails as they scramble to escape, skeletons leave behind their dropped bones as they run...
  • Voice sync for soldiers upon selecting, moving, recruiting
  • Drinking: the more our narrator drinks, the fancier the story becomes...
  • Unique enemies, each Warchief having special and OP traits, abilities, and weaknesses
  • Including 3 completely new race: Ravagers, Dark Elves, and Northern Barbarians
  • 25 battle scenarios, and two scenes (not counting Inn-scenes)
  • Requiring Battle For Wesnoth version 1.12.0 or newer, not tested on 1.13 series

Translations
Hungarian translation is in progress.
Any translators are welcome! :)
If you would like to participate in translating work, but don't know how to, feel free to pm me, I'm glad to help!

Artwork
There is much artwork the campaign is in urgent need of. As you can see, there is an artwork_needed.txt file attached with the campaign, read it, post here, or pm me for details.

Published up-to-date version
Current version: 1.0.8
Stable version, updates upon bug reports and feedback
Known issues:



While providing feedback, please, pretty please include as many informations on bugs you find as possible. A picture is many times worth more than a thousand words. I'm always open to all critiques. :)
Also, while posting here, as a courtesy to your fellow players, please include storyline spoilers into a [ spoiler ]!

Note:
I really don't know how much I should emphasize this, but this campaign at various points does feature explicit violence, stronger language, and alcoholism, some of which may not be appropriate for children under 8-10.

Thank you for playing The Ravagers, I hope you liked it :)
Best regards,
WhiteWolf

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Last edited by WhiteWolf on February 21st, 2017, 4:20 pm, edited 19 times in total.
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Re: The Ravagers - NEW SP campaign - [Feedback and developme

Postby The_Gnat » December 21st, 2016, 11:55 pm

This campaign sounds really interesting! I look forward to trying it! (how many scenarios does it have?)
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Re: The Ravagers - NEW SP campaign - [Feedback and developme

Postby WhiteWolf » December 21st, 2016, 11:59 pm

Forgot about scenario number, added that as well, thanks :)
It has 25 battle scenarios, and two scenes.
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Re: The Ravagers - NEW SP campaign - [Feedback and developme

Postby gnombat » December 22nd, 2016, 12:44 am

It seems to require The Blind Sentinel to be installed:

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error config: Macro/file '~add-ons/The_Blind_Sentinel/utils/utils.cfg' is missing
at ~add-ons\\The_Ravagers\\units\\transport\\Catapult.cfg:3
    included from ~add-ons\\The_Ravagers\\_main.cfg:71
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Re: The Ravagers - NEW SP campaign - [Feedback and developme

Postby ahmannar » December 22nd, 2016, 3:48 am

Just passed the first combat scenario and i´m going into the second one right now, playing on normal difficulty. The story itself seems to be quite good so far and the style of narrative is quite unique and,must i say, entertaining. Since i can´t find flaws in the storyline and dialogues nor have i encountered any bugs so far, i´ll just ask some questions for now:

-> Is the campaign truly "balanced" for each type of leader? By reading their descriptions, the one that gives leadership and extra resistances seems to be the superior choice. Even if the ranger leader is better as a standalone unit, having leadership and a "steadfast aura" is too good to not use;

->Does the type of drinks consumed alter the storyline in some way or is that just a flavor theme of the campaign?

I´ll eventually continue to give feedback when i have played more scenarios ;)
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Re: The Ravagers - NEW SP campaign - [Feedback and developme

Postby Lord-Knightmare » December 22nd, 2016, 7:20 am

It's about revenge? My, my, that's my favourite word.... I will try it out...However, you did not specify which version of Wesnoth I need to use.... :hmm:
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Re: The Ravagers - NEW SP campaign - [Feedback and developme

Postby WhiteWolf » December 22nd, 2016, 10:42 am

Uploaded version 1.0.3, fixing the dependence of Blind Sentinel, sorry for that.

I've also added the BFW version specification, it was written on 1.12.0 and play-tested on 1.12.6, so the whole 1.12.x branch is supported. Not tested on 1.13 series.

I've come to the conclusion, that the leader selection is really up to personal taste. On the two easier difficulties, the campaign can certainly be played without obstacles with both training types. :)
On the two harder difficulties, differences might arise, and the Captain might be superior, but that is mostly because of the design of the maps. Cave maps come in only later on, and you might need the op leadership and resistance ability in the beginning more than a stronger skirmisher stand-alone unit.
EDIT:
But you are right, the choice might seem trivial to players. I wanted to buff the Longbowman with another ability, after having it playtested around a little more, but I added it anyway. Just to make the choice a bit harder :D
The new ability is "eagle eye" for the bow: While used in offense, it always has at least 65% chance to hit, and has a 30% chance to deal 40% extra damage, by hitting a vital organ.

The drinks in the beginning do not influence storyline. How to put this: it's not the first tankard that makes you talk. Keep drinking, and you'll see the effects. When it comes in, there will be detailed descriptions showing which drink causes which effect. (And you can always drink water then...).

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Re: The Ravagers - NEW SP campaign - [Feedback and developme

Postby ahmannar » December 22nd, 2016, 12:38 pm

While playing the second scenario i noticed that i cannot undo the movements of any unit which seems strange, since all of the map is discovered at the beginning. I went to test this in another campaigns and it seems to work fine there.

EDIT:
->Would it also be possible to have an explanation of the effects of the "damage distribution mod" when trying to activate it?
-> A new type of unit can be recruited at the 3rd combat scenario with no apparent reason for it (at least that i noticed).
->Did you drawn inspiration of the terrify mechanic from the last game of the lord of the rings? Seems similar in concept and it seems promising :)
Spoiler:

->The scenario "The duel" states that only pillagers have a fire attack to terrify the enemy, but crossbowman also have it.
->The flashback scenario has the win condition of surviving the siege but also has the defeat condition of losing when the turns run out. The scenario is won when the turn limit ends anyway (as stated by the dialogue of it) but that defeat condition is not correct.
->The flashback scenario also has carryover gold to the next scenario. This doesn´t feel right, since a battle from hundreds of years ago is having an impact in today´s events.
->The dialogue during the scenario "Crossing River Bork" seems to indicate that killing one of the enemy leaders will lead to the discovery of the weakness of the other. However, it only takes clicking the 2nd enemy leader to see his weakness. Maybe hiding this and only making it available to him after killing the 1st enemy leader?
->The "assault commander" unit has no sprite.
->Cormac VI starts the scenario "The forbiden memory" with no movement points.
->The use of gold in "forbiden memory" and the previous scenario seems awkward. The gold from the previous scenario gets carried over to "forbiden memory", which takes palce in the past, and the carryover gold from that scenario gets carried again to the present. I was confused by this and it didn´t seem obvious that this would happen.
->The scenario that gives a reward (level 3 unit) upon defeating 2 orc leaders seemed to imply that there would be a choice of leveling it up to level 4 or, in alternative, have a special trait. My level 3 unit leveled up to level 4 automatically, was there something that i missed about this?
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Re: The Ravagers - NEW SP campaign - [Feedback and developme

Postby Lumen » December 22nd, 2016, 10:42 pm

Hey this add-on seems amazing :D and i just started it and noticed one thing

captain and longbow man have different potraits in choose leader but in game they have same ( longbowman ) is this done intentionally ?
( i have not yet playd more than first two scenarios [tavern and the siege of greenwood ] )
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Re: The Ravagers - NEW SP campaign - [Feedback and developme

Postby WhiteWolf » December 23rd, 2016, 5:06 pm

ahmannar wrote:i cannot undo the movements of any unit

This is one of my known bugs and I cannot fix it with Wesnoth 1.12, as far as with my knowledge. This is a side effect of the soldier sync as far as I know, but turning it off solves it.. (Right-click -> Sound effect preferences -> No!). I'll edit this info into the sound preferences message.

Would it also be possible to have an explanation of the effects of the "damage distribution mod" when trying to activate it?

The damage distribution mod was not created nor is it maintained by me, it's just an interesting optional mod I found and I wished to link to the campaign :) I will add short description for it though.

Minor spoilers:


Spoiler:


The dialogue during the scenario "Crossing River Bork" seems to indicate that killing one of the enemy leaders will lead to the discovery of the weakness of the other.

Read the line more carefully. It says either kill the enemy, or analyze the map for clues. ;)

My level 3 unit leveled up to level 4 automatically, was there something that i missed about this?

Umm...I meant that they are either units with lvl 4 advancement available, or units with no advancement, but rather with a special trait. Namely the dark elf high lord, he cannot advance to lvl 4, but has the no-counter melee attack trait.
I'll try to redraft that description.

On gold carryover: I found, that gameplay-wise, it's better to let the player have a smooth gold-carryover throughout the campaign. I know it's against the laws of physics, but for now, this system will remain.

The rest appear to be minor bugs, I will fix them asap, thanks for reporting :)


Lumen wrote:captain and longbow man have different potraits in choose leader but in game they have same

This is exactly what is detailed in the artwork_needed.txt :) The portrait of the Captain in the menu is just the default portrait for any ravager, and it's just a placeholder. Good portraits for a captain-style Blackwood would indeed come in handy, but currently only the longbowman-style portraits are at my disposal :(

Best regards, I hope to fix the issues by tomorrow,
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Re: The Ravagers - NEW SP campaign - [Feedback and developme

Postby WhiteWolf » December 27th, 2016, 3:24 pm

Hi,

I've uploaded the 1.0.4 patch update with the bug-fixes, and a couple of other stuff.
Changelog:


The movement-undo bug has been moved to the top of the known-issues list. The only solution remains that the soldier voice-sync effect must be turned off, I've added a message for this.

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Re: The Ravagers - NEW SP campaign - [Feedback and developme

Postby WhiteWolf » December 31st, 2016, 9:41 pm

Uploaded 1.0.5 with a couple of reworked features, as well with some minor bugfixes and fixes for some known issues.
Full changelog:
Changelog:


Happy New Year :)
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Re: The Ravagers - NEW SP campaign - [Feedback and developme

Postby Crow_T » December 31st, 2016, 10:02 pm

WhiteWolf wrote:The damage distribution mod was not created nor is it maintained by me, it's just an interesting optional mod I found and I wished to link to the campaign :) I will add short description for it though.

WhiteWolf


Hey it's great that you have included ddm into this! Out of curiosity did you tweak any of the parameters?
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Re: The Ravagers - NEW SP campaign - [Feedback and developme

Postby WhiteWolf » January 2nd, 2017, 8:08 pm

Unfortunately I don't speak Lua, so no, I only had fun with it around a bit. A few notes, it really could have a bit of a tutorial when enabling it, and it seems to throw only 1 damage too often to my taste. :)
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Re: The Ravagers - NEW SP campaign - [Feedback and developme

Postby Deathchaser666 » January 8th, 2017, 2:08 am

Hi Whitewolf,

I've just finished the Underness Series and enjoyed it immensely. I have just started the Ravagers and it's been great.

However, I got stuck in the "Prison of The King" Scenario. No one can enter the cave opening. I've moved each and every character to the mouth of the cave but they don't get transported to the other side of the mountain as it is supposed to be.

My version of Wesnoth is 1.12.6.

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