Dead Water 1.0 for BfW 1.8

[beetlenaut]

Formidable! Merci.

[lostnumber]

Hey I dont know if you're still around beetlenut

Unfortuantely I'm having a problem playing...

I've played through it before and this was my second time through, I'm on the "revenge" scenario (I forget if that is the last one) everything was working dandy. I opened some of the config files yesterday to look for where to find the loyal bat, but as far as I know I didnt change anything at all.

Now I have a problem when I try to load my game, it gave me one long error about unexpected text the first time, it gives me an error "unknown unit type 'Merman Brawler'" and refuses to load.

Any ideas why or how I can fix this?

[SkyOne]

Hey I dont know if you're still around beetlenut

Unfortuantely I'm having a problem playing...

I've played through it before and this was my second time through, I'm on the "revenge" scenario (I forget if that is the last one) everything was working dandy. I opened some of the config files yesterday to look for where to find the loyal bat, but as far as I know I didnt change anything at all.

Now I have a problem when I try to load my game, it gave me one long error about unexpected text the first time, it gives me an error "unknown unit type 'Merman Brawler'" and refuses to load.

Any ideas why or how I can fix this?

Re-downloading Dead Water will probably fix the problem. Or make sure the [unit] tag on scenario 12 inside of the start [event]. It has to be:

Spoiler:

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        [unit]
            side=1
            type=Merman Brawler
            x,y=5,18
            id=Tabomo
            name=Tabomo
            [modifications]
                {TRAIT_LOYAL}
                {TRAIT_STRONG}
            [/modifications]
            experience=32
            overlays=overlays/loyal-icon.png
        [/unit]

Edit: In addition, there has to be Brawler.cfg in the unit folder.

[beetlenaut]

I'm still around, but not all the time.

It worked fine for me, so please re-download the campaign like SkyOne suggested. If you still have problems, post the whole error message, and I'll see what I can figure out.

[beetlenaut]

I've ported Dead Water to Battle for Wesnoth 1.8. It looks nicer with all the new merfolk portraits. I also cleaned up the code a bit, and gave the AI some more money on several scenarios that seemed a bit too easy on "hard". I played the whole campaign though today (my mouse fingers hurt), and didn't find any bugs, but that doesn't guarantee that there aren't any. Let me know here if you find one.

Use 1.8-beta2 or later. There is a bug in earlier versions that causes worse problems in this campaign than in most.

Any feedback besides bugs should go in the add-on feedback forum. Thanks!

[morningstar]

Great campaign ! Thanks. Just finished it on the hardest level. Found the first scenario was the most difficult. After that, you have to use massively the stupidness of AI. The entire campaign is tough. Great. Even the last scenario isn't that easy (I had a bit more than 600 gold, all from the previous scenario, 4 priestress, 3 enchantress, and about 2 of each other level 3. I basically waited in my corner for the ennemy and got only out of it when he was half dead.
I managed not to loose any of my stronger units after a few scenarios, even if that's not what you planned But that's my way of playing. I thought the brawlers weren't that useful in the end.

Thanks for the fun; The campaign hax it's place in mainline I believe.

[Max]

would you mind posting a replay of first scenario - i wasn't able to beat it on hard, not even got close^^

[StandYourGround]

Here is my replay, though not on hard. Basically, the fighters are only really good against zombies, while the Hunters are good against bats with their ranged, and should be leveled to Net Casters ASAP to be useful against skellies as well.. Meanwhile, use Mermaids and (spam) Citizens on skellies, and give the king some killing blows when possible. Also, send some of the spare citizens to grab villages, and pester the bats until the Hunters finish them off. The more villages you grab and hold, the fewer free zombies the bad guy gets, and the less he can recruit.
Replay

[Max]

thanks - but the download link doesn't work...

i've never had a problem with the first scenario on 1.6. i've tried it twice in 1.7 (playing on hard) and i got lots of bats and wcs. mermaid initiates and my priestess can take care of the bats, but i've got no idea what to do with all the wcs. they've got excellent defense in water (same as mermaids) and the first wave arrives during the night. retreat during this isn't really an option.

i guess i'll have to play it on easy...

btw: congratulations on getting this campaign mainlined^^

[morningstar]

How do I send a replay ? I don't know

The idea is to lure the bats as soon as you can. I have about 4 bats. As soon as possible I put a unit to lure them. The first 3 are killed before the other ennemy units are in range. Bats won't look for villages if they can attack. So for instance, at a point I have a citizen on a village in the south swamps. A bat comes in range : he flies west, leaving the village to the bat, and another unit, lures the bat north near my army. Each time the bat will suicide in an attack there. Once the bats are dead, it becomes a bit easier. You fight the first wave of corpses in an ideal position on the squares with 70% defense. Once you won that first shock, he will retreat and you just lure his units a few at a time to kill them. I believe you need a bit of luck for the first wave of corpses and another bit because you absolutely need to level up your king. So at the and, try to get the game going : let his leader recruit one unit / round that you kill before it does anything. You need luck because his leader might suicide in attacking one of your units (I weaken his leader at the end to make sur he doesn't attack me, but sometimes he does). If he does, you might start the following scenario with too little leveled up units.
I started the second scenario with my king level one (he just took a village north, then the 2 in north west and then waited near the NW corner for the good moment to end the scenario. Meanwhile, The 3 ondins from the first scenario + the 3 hunters + 3 ondins + 3 citizens went to attack SW : leveled up one hunter and several ondins.

Good luck !

[StandYourGround]

My replay link is fixed, now.

[Valyn]

Just downloaded 0.9.19 and it froze up my game on opening. You are missing a close tag after the description of the campaign in _main.cfg

Spoiler:

description= _ "You are Kai Krellis, a merman king, but only a child. A necromancer has arrived and is turning your subjects into undead slaves! Lead your people on a mission to convince a powerful mermaid to help you repel the invasion. The oceans near the Northern Lands are perilous, so you will need cunning and bravery to be survive, but first you need to gain the respect of your troops!
Intermediate level, 10 playable scenarios.

[beetlenaut]

Yeah, I'm sorry about that. I must have been fixing it as you were downloading it. It's correct now.

[Valyn]

I went in and fixed it myself, was just annoying that it didn't let me open wesnoth.

[drwilly]

So I just finished the campaign, and since I really enjoyed it, here's my feedback:

Spoiler:

First of all I like the terrain on the campaingn. Obviously it has to be mostly water based, but even so its looking good and does provide some tactical options.
I found myself rather limited on unit choices though. Everything seemed to circle around mermaid initiands and their higher level variants.
Right at the beginning, you are facing Undeads.
The swimming corpses are hard to hit, Skelettons are largely immune to pierce and vulnerable to impact, so initiands are your most important units.
The Wolf Coast scenario is pretty even in that regard, but right the next scenario youre facing saurians.
Saurians are resistant to pierce, vulnerable to impact and hard to hit, so anything but initiands is meatshield at best.
The next scenario you have six hexes and only one round to recruit. So you pick your highest troops which are, of course, your initiands.
Uncharted Islands is probably the first scenario where initiands are a bad option. Its also what made the scenario pretty exciting and difficult.
The drake-scenario on the other hand was mindblowingly easy. I think I recalled a few vets from the uncharted islands with a few new units and that was that. I felt a bit sorry for the drakes.
Next scenario: Scorpions and a few spiders. Once again, the initiands (in that case the priestesses) did most of the killing, though I had a few other units to protect them.
Oh, those bats are a really cool idea.
And then the last two scenarios you're fighting undead again.
Having a few netcasters/entanglers is really useful, but througout the most of the campaign I felt like 3/4 of my army was priestesses and enchantesses while I hardly found a use for Javelineers or Tritons/Hoplites.