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SlowThinker
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Re: TOURNAMENT: Conquest

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My original idea of the tournament system is:
  • people that win Round 1 play for placings 1-18
  • people that lose Round 1 play for placings 19-36
etc.
But that way people that lost could have a low motivation next rounds.
So I am thinking about a slightly different system.

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For simplicity let us imagine a tourney with 8 players. The simple system (the original idea) is:

Round 1:
Group A: players play for placings 1-8

Round 2:
Group A is split in 2 groups:
Group Aa: players play for placings 1-4
Group Ab: players play for placings 5-8

Round 3:
Group Aa is split in 2 groups:
Group Aaa: players play for placings 1-2
Group Aab: players play for placings 3-4
Group Ab is split in 2 groups:
Group Aaa: players play for placings 5-6
Group Aab: players play for placings 7-8

Now if
  • any winner of Round 1 gains 1 point
  • any winner of Round 2 gains 1/2 point
  • any winner of Round 3 gains 1/4 point
then the placings are determined by the total points gained.

A player who loses 1st round then wins all remaining rounds ends 5th (just under 50% among all players).

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Now how to alter the system:
Edit: this system will be used. Maybe it will be slightly altered because in later rounds we will have groups with more players
  • any winner of Round 1 gains 1 point
  • any winner of Round 2 gains 3/4 of a point
  • any winner of Round 3 gains 9/16 of a point
  • ...
A player who loses 1st round then wins all remaining rounds ends just under 75% among all players.

Any comments, complaints?
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wtf_is_this
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Re: TOURNAMENT: Conquest

Post by wtf_is_this »

I dont want to complain,because both types are looking nice.
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BLAST
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Re: TOURNAMENT: Conquest

Post by BLAST »

Looks like it could work pretty well. No complaints either way. However, is there any way to create an opportunity for players who lost the first match but won all the others, to still have a chance at being a runner-up for the finals?

P.S. Has anyone seen Conrad on?
SlowThinker
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Re: TOURNAMENT: Conquest

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BLAST wrote:Looks like it could work pretty well. No complaints either way. However, is there any way to create an opportunity for players who lost the first match but won all the others, to still have a chance at being a runner-up for the finals?
There are ways (like the swiss system), but that would be too laborious for me. If anyone is willing to maintain another tournament system then we can use it.
C4theslayer
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Re: TOURNAMENT: Conquest

Post by C4theslayer »

I have been off of Wesnoth since the beginning of the school year. Is there any way to get involved in the tournament now or is it too late?
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Re: TOURNAMENT: Conquest

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C4theslayer: yes, there is a little chance, please read the end of the "TOURNAMENT: Conquest (announcements)" thread.
wtf_is_this
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Re: TOURNAMENT: Conquest

Post by wtf_is_this »

I have lost my first game vs Ikerpeta after surendering at turn 7.If Iker finds time he should post replay.It was hilarious after i canceled thysea-carlon spawn i got the same in the new game :@.

Next game will be on lotr,nobody knows when.GG iker,hope i at least try to do something next time
buz
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Re: TOURNAMENT: Conquest

Post by buz »

little idea. its not classic tornament just rating active players:
http://muxxu.com/forum/thread/1135793/?page=1

But if we can count all rating by 4 mounth. And say who wins. I know rating formula but cant say(( Bad english((


I just not see how new system slove problem. We have many sleep people. He not want play or cant play.
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Re: TOURNAMENT: Conquest

Post by Ikerpeta »

I played 2 games vs wtf_is_this and won both with certain luck I might say :)
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Amangon
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Re: TOURNAMENT: Conquest

Post by Amangon »

I am having trouble getting in contact with Prokon. :(
we exchanged PNs some time ago, but it seems we slipped past each other ingame.
I wrote him an other PN allmost a week ago but no reply sofar.

Amangon

(If anybody meets him ingame, tell him to check his PNs please)
SlowThinker
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Re: TOURNAMENT: Conquest

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The re-pairing will take place today at 22:00 GMT on the official 1.8 server.

List of players that will be paired:
KussMar,Gyudan,Lich_Lord,BLAST,Substitute1,Substitute2

The substitutes will be taken from these players (their order is important, because it is the order how they will fill the two "Substitute" slots):
  1. Conrad
  2. C4theslayer
  3. Gwledig
Conrad was on the list of dead people so far, then BLAST told me he started some communication with Conrad. So I ask Conrad in this thread to confirm whether he lives and wants to play.
C4theslayer asked to participate in the tournament about a week ago.
Gwledig asked to participate in the tournament earlier, but he didnt respond to my PM, so he may be dead now.
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BLAST
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Re: TOURNAMENT: Conquest

Post by BLAST »

SlowThinker wrote: Conrad was on the list of dead people so far, then BLAST told me he started some communication with Conrad. So I ask Conrad in this thread to confirm whether he lives and wants to play.

Gwledig asked to participate in the tournament earlier, but he didnt respond to my PM, so he may be dead now.
I have a connection of sorts with Conrad, but he looks at/answers PMs about once every 7-10 days and he is really busy and cannot organize times for games very well.

Gwledig is in the process of moving and although not dead might not have the means to respond or play games.
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Re: TOURNAMENT: Conquest

Post by DSidious »

ive won my first game with gargant/csdidier but ive been unable to get another game in
C4theslayer
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Re: TOURNAMENT: Conquest

Post by C4theslayer »

I'm still in.
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Re: TOURNAMENT: Conquest

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I lost my 1st game with Berserkjaguar
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