Best attack?

js138 · Post by **js138** » March 18th, 2005, 5:56 pm

While playing through EI (finally completed it once) I managed to get a couple of pretty decent attack numbers against the undead dragon during the day.

Firstly I managed to get a 40-2 attack on it from a Grand Marshal-led Shock Trooper, which I thought was quite nifty - until he missed both times.

This was mitigated somewhat by the 38-4 my Grand Marshal-led white mage mustered which proceeded to hit 3 out of 4 and finish the scenario :-)

I do find it curious that a unit leveling can actually reduce it's fighting capability by reducing the level of leadership it can take, but I guess that's balanced by the extra resilience the increased HPs give.

Anyone seen any better in practise? And what is the theoretical best? Monsters need not apply... (or a Yeti vs a Skel would be way up the list).

Glowing Fish · Post by **Glowing Fish** » March 18th, 2005, 6:58 pm

A Paladin defending against a charging Chocobone in broad daylight, behind a grand martial, would do ~60 points of damage per hit, and a total of close to 300 points of damage.

Tomsik · Post by **Tomsik** » March 18th, 2005, 7:05 pm

just make new unit or modifiy unit to get biiiiig dmg

Deathtenks · Post by **Deathtenks** » March 18th, 2005, 7:08 pm

IIRC A Paladin's Charge doesn't have Holy with it.....Only's its sword does.....Anyway A knight Led by a Lord with a Holy Charge(Holy Water) On a Revrant(Sp?) at night did 70 Damage. This was at night so you gotta taek that into account.

Post by **turin** » March 18th, 2005, 7:21 pm

Deathtenks wrote:IIRC A Paladin's Charge doesn't have Holy with it.....Only's its sword does.....Anyway A knight Led by a Lord with a Holy Charge(Holy Water) On a Revrant(Sp?) at night did 70 Damage. This was at night so you gotta taek that into account.

The chocobone is the one charging. The paladin thus defends with the sword, but still gets double damage.

Deathtenks · Post by **Deathtenks** » March 18th, 2005, 7:40 pm

OH didn't see the defending part >< Sorry about that.

My bad.

Uppi · Post by **Uppi** » March 18th, 2005, 10:49 pm

Glowing Fish wrote:A Paladin defending against a charging Chocobone in broad daylight, behind a grand martial, would do ~60 points of damage per hit, and a total of close to 300 points of damage.

Actually its 48 damage per hit, with a total of 240 damage

Post by **turin** » March 18th, 2005, 11:22 pm

Uppi wrote:
Glowing Fish wrote:A Paladin defending against a charging Chocobone in broad daylight, behind a grand martial, would do ~60 points of damage per hit, and a total of close to 300 points of damage.
Actually its 48 damage per hit, with a total of 240 damage

A strong one would do more, but probablly not 60.

Uppi · Post by **Uppi** » March 18th, 2005, 11:46 pm

turin wrote:
Uppi wrote: Actually its 48 damage per hit, with a total of 240 damage
A strong one would do more, but probablly not 60.

54 to be exact...

Elvish_Pillager · Post by **Elvish_Pillager** » March 19th, 2005, 9:19 pm

Strong Knight in Daytime led by Grand Marshal with Holy Water against Mal-Ravanal. It kills in one hit.

Post by **turin** » March 20th, 2005, 12:47 am

Elvish Pillager wrote:Strong Knight in Daytime led by Grand Marshal with Holy Water against Mal-Ravanal. It kills in one hit.

That is evil... I should give Mal-Ravanal holy resistance, or something...

Glowing Fish · Post by **Glowing Fish** » March 20th, 2005, 5:24 am

Elvish Pillager wrote:Strong Knight in Daytime led by Grand Marshal with Holy Water against Mal-Ravanal. It kills in one hit.

But that includes Holy Water. I was just including normal attacks.
Although it could be argued that the situation I mentioned wasn't "normal" since the Grand Marshall may or may not be a standard unit.

Elvish_Pillager · Post by **Elvish_Pillager** » March 20th, 2005, 10:22 am

Glowing Fish wrote:But that includes Holy Water. I was just including normal attacks.

What is this normality of which you speak? My situation is actually possible in an official campaign... unlike the Chocobone situation...

romnajin · Post by **romnajin** » March 20th, 2005, 10:24 pm

A Grand Marshall is only available as a "standard" leader. In the default era, the upgrade of a sergeant is a leader(I can't spell that l word

) he can upgrade to a Grand Marshall, even though I really doubt that anyone would get enough xp in MP! But yes, it is possible, maybe at 30% xp?

romnajin · Post by **romnajin** » March 20th, 2005, 10:26 pm

IIRC, aren't Chocobones in HttT? I haven't gotten that far if it is, but I heard it mentioned in a forum.