What is your favorite campaign?

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What is your favorite mainline campaign?

Heir to the Throne
9
20%
A Tale of Two Brothers
0
No votes
An Orcish Incursion
1
2%
The South Guard
0
No votes
Liberty
2
4%
Legend of Wesmere
2
4%
The Eastern Invasion
0
No votes
The Hammer of Thursagan
0
No votes
Descent Into Darkness
5
11%
Delfador's Memoirs
0
No votes
The Sceptre of Fire
4
9%
Son of the Black-Eye
2
4%
The Rise of Wesnoth
6
13%
Northern Rebirth
6
13%
Under the Burning Suns
9
20%
 
Total votes: 46

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Re: What is your favorite campaign?

Post by Turuk » August 5th, 2009, 4:10 am

stupidjaguar wrote:Is Delfador's Memoirs anything like the version back in 1.2 or 1.3? My cousin had downloaded it and there was a purple Delfador... so I know at least that was changed. I am really interested, the "wise old one" motif in fantasy stories (Count of Monte Cristo, Harry Potter, Lord of the Rings, etc.) has always enchanted me and I would like to play. Is it safe to play? Isn't the 1.7 branch buggy?
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Re: What is your favorite campaign?

Post by Zarel » August 5th, 2009, 7:09 am

Turuk wrote:What do people think of the two newest campaigns added, Legend of Wesmere and Delfador's Memoirs?

More to the point, since the above is a poll for your favorite campaign, what is your least favorite campaign and why?
I liked LoW; it's the best elf campaign. But that's mostly because in AOI, one of my Enchantresses got one-shotted in 60% terrain by a troll. AOI was kind of boring, actually; I remember it being too much of just "defeat these enemies" over and over (but that was a long time ago, so my memory may be off).

DM was boring in the beginning, but the middle was pretty interesting. I haven't finished it yet.
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Re: What is your favorite campaign?

Post by mabeenot » August 5th, 2009, 8:05 am

My favorites are TRoW and HttT, partly because they establish two pivotal moments in Wesnoth's history and feature characters that are often referred to in other campaigns.
Turuk wrote:What do people think of the two newest campaigns added, Legend of Wesmere and Delfador's Memoirs?

More to the point, since the above is a poll for your favorite campaign, what is your least favorite campaign and why?
I just finished LoW and I think it's one of my least favorite. There were some high points, including the invisibility scenario and the ability to give commands to some allied AI players, but I thought the last few scenarios were a little anti-climactic and defeated the purpose of leveling up a bunch of units earlier in the game.

I bet a lot of new players go down the list of campaigns in order. This is good at first for learning how to play the game, but some might find the middle campaigns less exciting and move on to something else before they get down to some of the really inventive ones at the bottom. I jumped down to TRoW after only playing HttT, AOI, and AToTB simply because I wanted to know how it all began. Then I went back and played the rest knowing (for the most part) where everything fit along the timeline. TRoW and AOI definitely gave me an historical point of reference when I played LoW.

It'd be nice if players had an option as to how the campaigns were ordered. As an alternative to ordering them by difficulty, a player could push a button to have them listed in roughly chronological order.

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Re: What is your favorite campaign?

Post by Oliphant » August 5th, 2009, 1:43 pm

UtBS, the first time I played it it was complete, but since then seems to have been in revision more often than not. I'm just about to fire up 1.6.4, I hope the campaign is complete and working now!
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Re: What is your favorite campaign?

Post by Limabean » August 5th, 2009, 7:01 pm

DiD, SoF, SotBE, and UtbS in that order.
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Re: What is your favorite campaign?

Post by stupidjaguar » August 5th, 2009, 10:15 pm

mabeenot wrote:It'd be nice if players had an option as to how the campaigns were ordered. As an alternative to ordering them by difficulty, a player could push a button to have them listed in roughly chronological order.
This sounds like a very interesting idea. If not "push a button", at least a pop-up dialog somewhere that lists the campaigns in chronological order. One of the most interesting aspects of Wesnoth (among pretty much everything else) is that campaigns refer to each other and that they all have their place in Wesnothian history.
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Re: What is your favorite campaign?

Post by Turuk » August 5th, 2009, 11:47 pm

mabeenot wrote:It'd be nice if players had an option as to how the campaigns were ordered. As an alternative to ordering them by difficulty, a player could push a button to have them listed in roughly chronological order.
Hmm, potentially, the years(s) the campaigns cover could be included in their description shown to the right when selected.
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Re: What is your favorite campaign?

Post by A-Red » August 5th, 2009, 11:53 pm

I liked LoW quite a bit. Many of the scenarios were pretty generic, but there were a few that really stood out, and it gave me a lot of opportunity to develop interesting elf units that I wasn't able to get in AOI.

I think the earliest campaigns (in terms of dev chronology, not Wesnoth's history) were less interesting because they focused more on good vs. evil. Since then, the various mainline campaigns have turned the history into a series of racial wars, power plays, and misunderstandings--which I find much more interesting. HttT and EI stand out like sore thumbs in this regard, but HttT can be forgiven because it has a widely varied set of missions and because none of those missions are Evacuation.

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Re: What is your favorite campaign?

Post by Aethaeryn » August 6th, 2009, 3:56 am

Zarel wrote:AOI was kind of boring, actually; I remember it being too much of just "defeat these enemies" over and over (but that was a long time ago, so my memory may be off).
It probably is more boring than most others because it was designed as a beginner's campaign so it can't be too complex and innovative: it has to teach the basics to you.
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mabeenot wrote:It'd be nice if players had an option as to how the campaigns were ordered. As an alternative to ordering them by difficulty, a player could push a button to have them listed in roughly chronological order.
Hmm, potentially, the years(s) the campaigns cover could be included in their description shown to the right when selected.
I agree completely. It would definitely add to the coherency of the canon campaigns. Of course, I'd advocate UtBS to be "???" as I do not believe it has a time given in the standard YW.
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Re: What is your favorite campaign?

Post by Turuk » August 6th, 2009, 11:14 pm

Aethaeryn wrote:I agree completely. It would definitely add to the coherency of the canon campaigns. Of course, I'd advocate UtBS to be "???" as I do not believe it has a time given in the standard YW.
I'll look into sorting this out tonight or tomorrow.
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Re: What is your favorite campaign?

Post by The Great Rings » August 9th, 2009, 12:11 am

I'm a little surprised that Northern Rebirth is lagging so low.

Dialog and characterization-wise, its arguably the strongest mainline campaign I've played.
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Re: What is your favorite campaign?

Post by stupidjaguar » August 9th, 2009, 12:32 am

I am surprised too. DiD was interesting, but favorite campaign to play? The final showdown, two scenarios before the end, where all your veterans die, is NOT fun to play. I really enjoyed the long battles in NR where you could strategically implement several plans. Plus, the characters were interesting and fun, it's just the portraits I didn't like. I intend on playing it again soon. Just as soon as the bug in DM is sorted out.
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Re: What is your favorite campaign?

Post by Zarel » August 9th, 2009, 12:45 am

The Great Rings wrote:I'm a little surprised that Northern Rebirth is lagging so low.

Dialog and characterization-wise, its arguably the strongest mainline campaign I've played.
I dunno. Parts of its dialog and characterization were really good, but parts of it were less so. I've always thought the idea of having a designated comic relief character to be rather poor, especially if overdone (of course, NR isn't the only campaign that suffers from this). And I think the characterization tries to make the characters seem different, which is good, but it does this by trying to push the characters into flat stereotypes, which gets old quickly and is unrealistic. Parts of the dialog are amazing, I agree, but much of it's just: character saying something stereotypical of them, other characters say something stereotypical of them, oh, now all the characters have to say their catchphrases...

That's one of the things I think TSoF did best. All the characters were interesting and unique, without seeming flat.
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Re: What is your favorite campaign?

Post by Crunchy » August 9th, 2009, 7:15 am

Currently I've only played:

TSG
HttT
AOI

in that order and I'm currently playing LoW.

So far HttT was by far the best, but LoW seems really promising. I quite like having to lvl up my elves as I usually just level up a few captains/marshals and say screw the rest.

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Re: What is your favorite campaign?

Post by azhag_pl » August 9th, 2009, 7:54 am

My favourites are IftU and ANO (few first scenarios didn't impressed me, but later it was the best campaign ever, until I played IftU).

From mainline: DiD and SotBE. I also like HttT and TRoW.

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