Scenario 1: Defend the Forest

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Re: Scenario 1: Defend the Forest

Post by p013121 » November 26th, 2010, 4:17 am

I Found The Entire Orcish Intrution Senario really Easy Just By Recuting Elvish Archers And When They Level Up Turning Them Into Marksmen Not Rangers.

This Worked Really Well Because i Found At The Last Senario You Need Marksmen For The Orcish Assassians that Will Probably End Up In the Mountains With 70% Defence

A Simple Way In the End Is Just Recruit Archers And Turn Them Into Marksmen And Sharpshooters It's Far More Simple And Affective

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Re: Scenario 1: Defend the Forest

Post by monochromatic » November 27th, 2010, 8:32 pm

p013121 wrote:I Found The Entire Orcish Intrution Senario really Easy Just By Recuting Elvish Archers And When They Level Up Turning Them Into Marksmen Not Rangers.

This Worked Really Well Because i Found At The Last Senario You Need Marksmen For The Orcish Assassians that Will Probably End Up In the Mountains With 70% Defence

A Simple Way In the End Is Just Recruit Archers And Turn Them Into Marksmen And Sharpshooters It's Far More Simple And Affective
You completely disregard the use of shamans. Have you tried Slyphs and Shydes together?

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Re: Scenario 1: Defend the Forest

Post by p013121 » December 31st, 2010, 1:04 am

elvish_sovereign wrote:
p013121 wrote:I Found The Entire Orcish Intrution Senario really Easy Just By Recuting Elvish Archers And When They Level Up Turning Them Into Marksmen Not Rangers.

This Worked Really Well Because i Found At The Last Senario You Need Marksmen For The Orcish Assassians that Will Probably End Up In the Mountains With 70% Defence

A Simple Way In the End Is Just Recruit Archers And Turn Them Into Marksmen And Sharpshooters It's Far More Simple And Affective
You completely disregard the use of shamans. Have you tried Slyphs and Shydes together?
In The Final Senario It Helps To Have Sharpshooters For Units In The Mountains And When You Have 2 Sharpshooters 6 Marksmen The 4 Rangers You Get And The Elvish Rider You Can't Lose

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Re: Scenario 1: Defend the Forest

Post by monochromatic » December 31st, 2010, 1:21 am

p013121 wrote:
elvish_sovereign wrote: You completely disregard the use of shamans. Have you tried Slyphs and Shydes together?
In The Final Senario It Helps To Have Sharpshooters For Units In The Mountains And When You Have 2 Sharpshooters 6 Marksmen The 4 Rangers You Get And The Elvish Rider You Can't Lose
Sharpshooters only get 8-5 marksman, while Slyphs get 10-5 magical plus better defense and movetype everywhere. Shydes are flying poison curers and have a powerful slowing attack that halves the enemies' damage and moves for a turn.

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Re: Scenario 1: Defend the Forest

Post by Mountain_King » April 13th, 2011, 11:41 pm

(1) What difficulty levels have you played the scenario on?
1.9.2 Hardest, and 1.9.5 Hardest. I also once played on 1.6/1.7 but that's irrelevant.
(2) How difficult did you find the scenario? (1-10)
4 just to win, 7 to win using only shamans.
(3) How clear did you find the scenario objectives?
Clear as mud.
(4) How clear and interesting did you find the dialog and storyline of the scenario?
8 or so. This is one of my favourite campaigns.
(5) What were your major challenges in meeting the objectives of the scenario?
My major challenge was my commitment to only recruit shamans. I almost lost my last shamans twice, but they got lucky and managed to survive on the village.
(6) How fun do you think the scenario is? (1-10)
First time 4, second time 8.
(7) What, if any, are changes you would have made to the scenario to make it more fun?
None.
(8) Was there any event that caused you to lose the game and forced you to reload or restart the scenario?
I was this close to save-loading in this scenario, but made an executive decision not to.
(9) If you know a bit of the Wesnoth Markup Language - do you think that the WML of this scenario is clear and well commented? If not which part would you like to be documented better?
Didn't read through the code.

No saveloads, and no restarts either come to think of it.
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Re: Scenario 1: Defend the Forest

Post by Faello » May 12th, 2011, 11:55 am

(1) What difficulty levels have you played the scenario on?

Challenging (High Lord) - most difficult level, 1.9.6, no saves/reloads

(2) How difficult did you find the scenario? (1-10)

1.

Very relaxing forest defence scenario. Urugha has 150gp - it's almost a non existant advantage over the Erlornas 100gp and village&terrain advantage.

4 losses, 13 kills in this one.

(3) How clear did you find the scenario objectives?

Crystal clear.

(4) How clear and interesting did you find the dialog and storyline of the scenario?


They're good.

(5) What were your major challenges in meeting the objectives of the scenario?

Keeping xp'ed units alive. Was a bit careless and lost some nicely exped fighter in this one. AI also used the orcish archer boost nicely in this scenario and recruited quite a lot of them.

(6) How fun do you think the scenario is? (1-10)

6.

Player can really chill in this one. It's really relaxing, still some minor line-building skills are required.

(7) What, if any, are changes you would have made to the scenario to make it more fun?

I'd raise amount of Urugha starting gold to 200 - 225gp.

(8) Was there any event that caused you to lose the game and forced you to reload or restart the scenario?

No.

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Re: Scenario 1: Defend the Forest

Post by WanderingHero » June 1st, 2011, 1:04 pm

Having made a negative post on HTT misson 1 I think its fair I post here.

1) Normal
(2) On it owns merits, 3, as a first time newbie scenario 4..... which in this case is perfect. Its fairly simple, but not turn your brain off easy. You encouraged to use a variety of units, and familrise yourself with the basics of the game, you can lose units if you mess up but its not aggravating. Wonderful scenario, got me back into Wesnoth, and should be the first campaign imho.
(3) Crystal
(4) Clear. Not that intresting but atmospheric at least, and got me in the mood
(5) Learning to play carefully, use terrain wisefully, go for good matchups and play the percentage game.
(6) On its own merits its too simple, but as a newbie scenario I'll give it a 10. Its a nearly perfect newbie scenario
(7) More varied terrain or something? I dunno
(8) Possible carlenessness i cant remeber. Nothing that made me think **** this

And then I replayed it on Hard. Its not that hard and abit simple for a hard level, but even then it was a good learning experince for how to handle a flood of orcs. Maybe the change the level on hard a little? I don't know how though

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Re: Scenario 1: Defend the Forest

Post by PorkSol » September 3rd, 2011, 7:19 pm

(1) What difficulty levels have you played the scenario on? High Lord (Hard), 1.9.8, no save load
(2) How difficult did you find the scenario? (1-10) 3. It's kind of hard to say. I did restart the map a few times to try different strategies to protect units a little more and I ended up getting some good luck on dodges on my final run. But I wasn't really in danger of losing, my other runs were just shaping up to be inefficient.
(3) How clear did you find the scenario objectives? Clear.
(4) How clear and interesting did you find the dialog and storyline of the scenario?Clear, about average in terms of interest. Elves didn't seem all that likeable.
(5) What were your major challenges in meeting the objectives of the scenario? The initial rush of units at night. Leveling units and protecting units with Exp.
(6) How fun do you think the scenario is? (1-10) 6. It is basic but there aren't a lot of negative aspects to it. Seems like a good introductory scenario.
(7) What, if any, are changes you would have made to the scenario to make it more fun? No changes.
(8) Was there any event that caused you to lose the game and forced you to reload or restart the scenario? Poor strategy led me to restart a few times to try and reduce the damage at night. I could have ended up restarting when I accidentally moved my druid onto open ground instead of forest, but I got some lucky dodges.
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Re: Scenario 1: Defend the Forest

Post by SBak » October 27th, 2011, 4:15 am

Content Feedback wrote:(1) What difficulty levels have you played the scenario on?
Easy
Content Feedback wrote:(2) How difficult did you find the scenario? (1-10)
First time round a 5, then when I figured out a better strategy it dropped to a 3. Thing is, after playing it a few times like all the elf first scenarios the difficulty varies somewhat due to the relationship between you and the AI.
Content Feedback wrote:(3) How clear did you find the scenario objectives?
Crystal clear, kill the enemy leader.
Content Feedback wrote:(4) How clear and interesting did you find the dialog and storyline of the scenario?
Pretty much standard..
Content Feedback wrote:(5) What were your major challenges in meeting the objectives of the scenario?
It's a toss up between separating the initial horde of orcs or keeping control of the central villages. Levelling units was also an issue until I figured that the best way is to keep moving and have an extra elf available when picking off orcs at nights or when they start sticking to villages.
Content Feedback wrote:(6) How fun do you think the scenario is? (1-10)
I'm quite new to Wesnoth but have some experience of elves and orcs. I imagine for someone green or just starting out it would be more challenging and engaging, but for me it's a case of trying to get a druid or an elvish hero whilst taking out some orcs and another orc leader.
Content Feedback wrote:(7) What, if any, are changes you would have made to the scenario to make it more fun?
I'd leave it as it is..
Content Feedback wrote:(8) Was there any event that caused you to lose the game and forced you to reload or restart the scenario?
I usually finish early, so no.

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Re: Scenario 1: Defend the Forest

Post by Kaiserdrache » November 23rd, 2011, 10:47 am

(1) What difficulty levels have you played the scenario on?

Medium

(2) How difficult did you find the scenario? (1-10)

2-3, not too challenging.

(3) How clear did you find the scenario objectives?

Very clear. Kill the leader and be done with it ;)

(4) How clear and interesting did you find the dialog and storyline of the scenario?

Clear, but not interesting.

(5) What were your major challenges in meeting the objectives of the scenario?

None.

(6) How fun do you think the scenario is? (1-10)

6

(7) What, if any, are changes you would have made to the scenario to make it more fun?

I would have appreciated a single loyal unit at the beginning, just to have at least one, but that's (of course) not necessary.

(8) Was there any event that caused you to lose the game and forced you to reload or restart the scenario?

Nope.

(9) If you know a bit of the Wesnoth Markup Language - do you think that the WML of this scenario is clear and well commented? If not which part would you like to be documented better?

No idea, sorry.

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Re: Scenario 1: Defend the Forest

Post by CeltiK » January 30th, 2012, 5:47 pm

(1) What difficulty levels have you played the scenario on?
1.10.0; Hard no saves/reloads.

(2) How difficult did you find the scenario? (1-10)
2. Just hold your ground during the night at the edge of the forest.

(3) How clear did you find the scenario objectives?
Crystal clear.

(4) How clear and interesting did you find the dialog and storyline of the scenario?
Fine.

(5) What were your major challenges in meeting the objectives of the scenario?
None.

(6) How fun do you think the scenario is? (1-10)
8. I like a good 1v1 fight on a small map.

(7) What, if any, are changes you would have made to the scenario to make it more fun?
It's good as it is.

(8) Was there any event that caused you to lose the game and forced you to reload or restart the scenario?
None.

(9) If you know a bit of the Wesnoth Markup Language - do you think that the WML of this scenario is clear and well commented? If not which part would you like to be documented better?
It's ok.

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Re: Scenario 1: Defend the Forest

Post by Ninjuri » May 17th, 2012, 12:31 am

(1) What difficulty levels have you played the scenario on?
Easy 1.10.2
(2) How difficult did you find the scenario? (1-10)
3
(3) How clear did you find the scenario objectives?
100%
(4) How clear and interesting did you find the dialog and storyline of the scenario?
It was fun to hear about the "dung" because it's just a strange topic to bring up, yet it makes sense as a differentiation between the two races. Seeing a pile of it (at least i think that was it) next to their base made me lol.
(5) What were your major challenges in meeting the objectives of the scenario?
None
(6) How fun do you think the scenario is? (1-10)
8
(7) What, if any, are changes you would have made to the scenario to make it more fun?
It's perfect for a starting scenario, lots of trees to introduce the relationship between elves and forests.
(8) Was there any event that caused you to lose the game and forced you to reload or restart the scenario?
No
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Re: Scenario 1: Defend the Forest

Post by jonaskoelker » June 20th, 2012, 2:26 pm

(1) Difficulty: Normal (in Wesnoth 1.10, debian 1:1.10.2-1)
(2) Hardship: 2/10.
(3) Objectives: unmistakably clear.
(4) Dialog and storyline: fine.
(5) Biggest challenge: picking apart a clumpy wave of units while building up XP for my healer and not losing anything.
(6) Fun: 6/10
(7) Changes: none I can think of...
(8) Restarts: I did a little bit of savescumming for "luck management"
(9) WML: dunno
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Re: Scenario 1: Defend the Forest

Post by Linthar » July 22nd, 2014, 1:38 am

(1) What difficulty levels and game versions have you played the scenario on?
Hard. 1.10.7

(2) How difficult did you find the scenario? (1-10)
4.

(3) How clear did you find the scenario objectives?
Clear

(4) How clear and interesting did you find the dialog and storyline of the scenario?
The writings fine.

(5) What were your major challenges in meeting the objectives of the scenario?
None really. Its a standard orc vs elf setup, on a map that is at least 70% forests. The orcs have the numbers to kill a unit or two, but the terrain is so favorable, that it's an easy battle.

(6) How fun do you think the scenario is? (1-10)
6. Its a rather straightforward scenario that doesn't really stand out, but its still somewhat fun just because the games core gameplay is fun.

(7) What, if any, are changes you would have made to the scenario to make it more fun?
Nothing comes to mind.

(8) Was there any event that caused you to lose the game and forced you to reload or restart the scenario?
No

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Re: Scenario 1: Defend the Forest

Post by kiss » July 31st, 2014, 4:16 pm

24 turns on a small map. Nothing special but an hint I'll follow and recruit 4 archers and 2 shamans.
Turn 1: Nice encouragement, riders are slow with 9 moves? And no grunt?
Turn 2: I do not like it and decided to restart. Following blindly that hint do not help at all! I have to think by myself.

Same map, but this time I'll recruit a mixed team to learn how to use each one. 4 different units and 6 slots: 3 of each on 2 turns.

Over on turn 14.

(1) What difficulty levels have you played the scenario on?
Fighter(beginner)1.10.7

(2) How difficult did you find the scenario? (1-10)
1

(3) How clear did you find the scenario objectives?
Clear.

(4) How clear and interesting did you find the dialog and storyline of the scenario?
For now it is quite simple and interesting.

(5) What were your major challenges in meeting the objectives of the scenario?
Not crying too much on lost units, but once again it's my fault not taking into account the day/night cycle! I think my initial team wasn't used the best way.

(6) How fun do you think the scenario is? (1-10) 6
Interesting to fight on a small map, it was the first time for me.

(7) What, if any, are changes you would have made to the scenario to make it more fun?
Nothing.

(8) Was there any event that caused you to lose the game and forced you to reload or restart the scenario?
None. Ho, sorry, one restart.

(9) If you know a bit of the Wesnoth Markup Language - do you think that the WML of this scenario is clear and well commented? If not which part would you like to be documented better?
I don't know.
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