What seperates the best players from the newbies?

[Elvish_Pillager]

Also, some people might say a great player manipulates luck. ;D

Best strategy -> being a lucky shmuck.

[Tux2B]

You would need to hear Tomsik's complete mathematical theory about luck on multiplayer...

[Tomsik]

Huh? My therory? What theory?

[Tux2B]

What you were saying on a multiplayer game about luck = look, or something like that.

[Tomsik]

That wasn't me, i've never said something like this.

[Cuyo Quiz]

Also, some people might say a great player manipulates luck. ;D

Best strategy -> being a lucky shmuck.

Then i advise you, never play against Typhus. That guy gets the most wild statistical deviations i've ever seen. He eithers gets a notable amount of extra damage or loses it.

You may dare to say, he is balanced.

[Spam]

Every instance you guys describe as seperating a "newbie" from an "expert" is, quite frankly, pretty obvious. And by "pretty obvious" I mean "halfway through their very first campaign obvious".

"Don't use a lawful archer to fire his bow at a chaotic skeleton at night."

I mean, even if you didn't bother to read the Unit Descriptions (which clearly outline all fo that), simple intuition from a little play experience would tell you an awful lot.

I'm not suggesting i'm an expert, obviously i'm not. I'm suggesting I know everything you guys have listed and named and yet, again, i'm no expert. Apparently the difference between a "newbie" and an "expert" is substantially more subtle then rudimentary and rather basic knowledge of game mechanics.

[Anyar]

Also, some people might say a great player manipulates luck. ;D

Best strategy -> being a lucky shmuck.

It works for me.

[Ansbach]

Ive noticed that most bad players follow the examples of the french in the middle ages: They let me find terrain that I want, then just attack me when I'm ready for them.

Reminds me of one of my favorite military quotes, although I can't remember it exactly - something like, "the key to defense is to take and defend positions that are so offensive from the strategic point of view that the enemy is compelled to attack you there."

[La_vie_en_Wose]

Appropriated terrain ?

[Airk]

From my newbie perspective, I would expect an expert to to have an intuitive grasp of zone of control. Right now, I find myself flailing around moving units, checking the opponent's moves, undoing, moving again, checking moves, and honestly just not really having a good "feeling" for how ZoC works. Sure, I understand it in theory, but in practice...not so much.

[Yogibear]

There is information you need to know and apply (like terrain defense, unit stats, zoc) in order to be a good player. Everybody can do that, they just need to learn enough and get some practice.

But i think what really makes up an expert is to look at a given situation and make the right decision about attack, hold position or retreat. There is so many factors that influence it and it needs either a lot of experience or much talent.

[Zhukov]

There is information you need to know and apply (like terrain defense, unit stats, zoc) in order to be a good player. Everybody can do that, they just need to learn enough and get some practice.

But i think what really makes up an expert is to look at a given situation and make the right decision about attack, hold position or retreat. There is so many factors that influence it and it needs either a lot of experience or much talent.

I agree with this. I can think of a couple of times when I have made the wrong decision in just such a situation. While it hasn't always lost me the game, it has always cost me.

[La_vie_en_Wose]

What seperates the best players from the newbies?

Time ?

[Tux2B]

What seperates the best players from the newbies?

Time ?

What do you mean?