Still searching for the Sceptre of Fire

cathyr19355 · Post by **cathyr19355** » July 21st, 2007, 9:47 pm

I'm not having a problem surviving the "Sceptre of Fire" scenario in HttT, or even leveling units (care for some Dwarven Lords, anyone?). No, my problem is that I can't find the damn Sceptre in 45 turns! I get to the last turn, having explored 2/3 to 3/4ths of the map, without seeing it! Any suggestions for how I can find it?

Post by **Turuk** » July 21st, 2007, 9:49 pm

It moves but generally go north/northwest. What parts of the map do you normally get explored?

cathyr19355 · Post by **cathyr19355** » July 21st, 2007, 9:53 pm

I typically recruit enough to build two sets of forces, one to the northwest and one to the northeast. Typically the one that hits the trolls doesn't get as far north as the other.

Post by **Turuk** » July 21st, 2007, 10:00 pm

That's how I do it, but you should be able to get far enough so that the force that goes northeast can sort of go up the middle and come around to the west. What level/number of units are you recruiting?

Post by **zookeeper** » July 21st, 2007, 10:02 pm

The map is generated randomly, so it's possible (although rare) that the scepter gets placed in some odd location. If you really can't find it, I'd suggest starting the scenario again from the beginning, that'll cause the map to be regenerated and quite likely the scepter to be placed in some easier location.

cathyr19355 · Post by **cathyr19355** » July 21st, 2007, 10:11 pm

I've already done that two or three times now. Guess I have to keep trying.

cathyr19355 · Post by **cathyr19355** » July 21st, 2007, 10:14 pm

I have two 3d level dwarven lords and a few dwarven fighters with experience. Unfortunately, I'm short on healers; all I have are an Elvish Druid and the 1st level Elvish Shamans (none of my leveled mages survived to this point, unfortunately). I usually recall all of the above and recruit about 12-15 dwarven fighters, and try to split Delfie, Conrad (who have have up to level 3 and about 71 hit points), Kalenz (also level 3 and about 67 hit points) and Li'sar reasonably between the parties.

Post by **Turuk** » July 21st, 2007, 10:22 pm

Sounds solid to me, I just used to rely on dwarven stalwarts and then sentinels, they're good for fighting trolls because of steadfast. Good luck with finding the Sceptre, it can be a bugger.

cathyr19355 · Post by **cathyr19355** » July 22nd, 2007, 12:41 am

Thanks.

sparr · Post by **sparr** » July 22nd, 2007, 5:20 am

imho the difficulty of some of the later scenarios, including this one, hinges on whether or not dwarven stalwarts and their kin are available. that storyline toggle is quite balance shifting, perhaps too much so.

cathyr19355 · Post by **cathyr19355** » July 22nd, 2007, 6:50 am

Actually, I just succeeded in getting the Sceptre--on turn 27! Thanks for the helpful comments.