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Re: Strategic map terrain -large scale map

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That looks usable… guess I'll have to set aside some time to do it now.
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It was good that the image could be used. I don't hurry, so work when you have time.
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Gave it a try and I think I got it working… though it seems that the three-way intersection of rivers and roads is broken? Is that the case with the version on the add-on server? EDIT: Oh wait, maybe the issue is just that the set of three-way rivers and roads is incomplete?
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Also, I can do this myself, but if you happen to have a spare moment, it would be helpful to have images that combine the three straight rivers with their corresponding bridge, for use in the editor.

EDIT: Also got the wood-to-water transition working… unfortunately it doesn't mesh well with the flat-to-water transition…
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Re: Strategic map terrain -large scale map

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Can this be used for the image of the bridge?
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Indeed, the transition from wood to water not only does not mesh with flats, but also does not seem to fit the concept of the map. The boundary between water and other terrain looks more natural with a flat coastline.
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IIIO_METAL wrote: April 19th, 2021, 4:16 am Can this be used for the image of the bridge?
Hmm… I don't think I can make those images work. The terrain I've added isn't a bridge - it's a river with a bridge over it, and there are three terrains, not two.
IIIO_METAL wrote: April 19th, 2021, 4:16 am Indeed, the transition from wood to water not only does not mesh with flats, but also does not seem to fit the concept of the map. The boundary between water and other terrain looks more natural with a flat coastline.
I think it does actually look better than the existing transition from wood to water, which uses the flat-to-water transition but has no wood-to-flat transition between the forest and the coastline, just a hard line. It may even be sufficiently better to just use it despite it not meshing well with the flat-to-water transition…
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Um ... this?
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I tried reproducing the map from the opening post (but using the new bridges in place of road/river crossings) and found that there are still a lot of missing details. For example, roads should connect to bridges and settlements, and that mock-up has a sort of outline around the settlement when it's placed on a forest. Intersections also don't work correctly in both roads and rivers (a subset of intersections works, but not all possible ones).

One thing I was debating was whether it would make more sense to just treat settlements as roads in the track placer code, or if I should offer both connected and disconnected variants.
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I don't think many people want to let players actually fight on this map.
When I used this terrain set, I didn't need the village to have village terrain functionality. So it's okay for the village to be integrated into the road.
If that simplifies the code a bit, I think it's better.

I learned a little about terrain-graphics. What I found out was that this was an incredibly complex and esoteric puzzle. :shock:
I don't have a good understanding of the structure of the graphic image needed for the terrain, so I need to get a better understanding. :hmm:
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