Frost Elves

[Temuchin Khan]

I have been requested to make a story line and unit descriptions for the Frost Elves, and to start a new thread devoted to them.

Here is the current unit line, close to my original idea, but revised and expanded in a number of ways by Zebulon (and others?).

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Yak Rider -> Yak Knight -> Yak Chevalier 
 
Charge -- melee 
Harpoon -- melee & ranged


Ice Elf Bladesman -> Ice Elf Cooler -> Ice Elf Snowtrooper 
 
Sword -- melee 
 
Dagger -- ranged 
 
                    -> Ice Elf Ice Roamer -> Ice Elf Ice Dancer 
 
Sword -- melee 


Ice Elf Archer -> Ice Elf Flurry -> Ice Elf Blizzard 
 
Sword -- melee 
Bow -- ranged 

                 -> Ice Elf Mountineer -> Ice Elf Alpine Master 
 
Ice pick -- melee 
Bow -- ranged 
Leadership 
 
 
Mistral Magus -> Mistral Rime Keeper -> Mistral Rime Castellan 
 
Wand -- melee,cold,magical 
Wind -- ranged,impact 
Lv2 heals , Lv3 cures 
 
            -> Mistral Frigorist -> Mistral Glacialist 
^ 
Stronger attacks 
no healing 
 
 
Seal -> Fleet Seal -> Elder Seal 
 
Bite -- melee 

And here is a preliminary unit description:

"Some Frost Elves have tamed wild yaks, which they now use as mounts. Though other races cannot understand their predilection for these odd beasts, and cannot imagine riding them, the Frost Elf cavalry is rightly feared for its cold efficiency."

[db0]

Well, I'll propose a few things to make them a bit more different than actual elves.

For example, the standard melee footman could use a staff instead of sword. Possible having one more attack at lower damage.

The archer could gain a cold enchantment on his bow on higher levels giving him a third attack option with stronger damage but only one strike. (or just the cold trait)

Why does the Mountaineer use an ice pick? It's a bit silly...
Have him use hand claws instead. Useful from climbing as well (from a storyline view)

Seal? Is this a water creature?

[romnajin]

I like the ice pick idea, but I do like your idea of the Frost Elf archers having a special cold just like current archers have a fire.

[Zebulon]

The archer could gain a cold enchantment on his bow on higher levels giving him a third attack option with stronger damage but only one strike. (or just the cold trait)

That wouldn't make any sense unless the archers were also mages.

Why does the Mountaineer use an ice pick? It's a bit silly...
Have him use hand claws instead. Useful from climbing as well (from a storyline view)

What are you talking about? A elven ice pick is a far more than "hand claws".

Seal? Is this a water creature?

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[turin]

An ice pick makes perfect sense. BTW, if you read The Hobbit, the dwarves in it use mattocks.

[Maeglin Dubh]

Hand claws are great for trees and ninja stories, but don't plan on using them for ice and rock. Ice pick is good as it stands.

Staff or spear might make a better weapon than sword, since they would be more of an aid in moving through difficult terrain.... But it could also be assumed that the elves are used to their terrain and don't require such aids.

A side note; snow isn't friendly to steel weapons.

[maliciouskorean]

maybe they could have a monk unit, with a punch attack for melee, and a magic attack for ranged, then they dont need weapons at all

[Temuchin Khan]

Just for the record, unit names are a combination of mine and Zebulon's (anyone else's?), weapons are mostly Zebulon's. Still, I think they make sense. As it stands, however, the faction is as much his as mine, and I'd be interested to see some of what he wants to do with it.

I intend to cover the rest of his request (story line, other unit descriptions) later this weekend.

[romnajin]

I don't know about the arrows...possibly the archers have minor magical skill and are able to enchant their arrows with cold(not enough to actually launch a bold of cold like a Dark Adept, but enough to put some magical potency into one of their arrows. Or possibly, they can specially prepare certain arrows by freezing them, so freeze their victims(I don't know how possible that is, sharpened ice cubes? XP

[db0]

Seal? Is this a water creature?

What?

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Back to the topic

The Elven arhers don't need to be mages (although some minor magical skill would not be out of scope in the medium magic world of Wesnoth)
The Bow could just be enchanted.

[Alks]

Rather about art, than ideas, but Neoriceisgood had some unused art of elks/mooses/whatever with riders. It could be a good help.

[turin]

IMHO, it isn't a good idea to give an enchanted weapon to a recruitable unit that doesn't possess magic itself. However, I also don't think it makes sense to have a unit that possesses magic be an archer, instead of a mage.

In any case, since the faction already has a mage unit, is there any real reason to give them a cold attack?

[Zebulon]

What?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pinniped

[Xan]

Just for the record, unit names are a combination of mine and Zebulon's (anyone else's?), weapons are mostly Zebulon's.

Yes, me.

As it stands, however, the faction is as much his as mine, and I'd be interested to see some of what he wants to do with it.

Basically, I'd like to see them racially similar to the wood elves, but colder and with different fighting styles. Also, I was thinking that the 'Official' factinon name should be 'Ice Elves', since (IMO) that gives a better idea of what they're like.

[ozymandias]

Hmmm... some of the names could use a bit of work I'd say.

Chevalier is just french for knight, AFAIK. How about High Yak Knight?

Ice Elf Cooler sounds a bit harmless - I'd suggest Ice Elf Chillbringer instead.
And Snowtrooper is a bit mundane - Snow Warrior would be better.

Instead of Flurry, I'd suggest Arrowstorm - Flurry is a bit weak, too.

Alpine Master has the problem that the name refers to the Alps, also it's a bit colorless. Eyrie Guardian maybe?

I'd also recommend against Mistral, since it's he name of a Mediterrean wind coming from the Alps, which isn't quite cold enough for Frost Elves IMHO. Better would be Boreal Magus, after the north wind Boreas.

Also, Snow Caller and Ice Caller instead of Frigorist and Glacialist.