Holy Knights Faction

Temuchin Khan · Post by **Temuchin Khan** » August 13th, 2006, 1:08 pm

I can't help but wonder if you had Spanish conquistadors in mind when you designed these guys. Not that I'd mind -- for all their faults, I have a soft spot for Cortes and Pizarro.

Dragon Master wrote:The faction will also have one (possibly two, more on that later) new abilities for the missionary line that will function much like plague. The ability will essentially be the same, except the unit killed by the missionary will be brought back on your side as a lvl 0 follower.

I'm thinking "Neophyte" would be a good name for the lvl 0 unit.

Dragon Master wrote:The follower unit will possibly level up into a missionary, or may just not have any higher level.

I do think the Neophyte should have upgrades, but I think it needs another advancement besides the missionary. Not sure what that should be yet.

Dragon Master · Post by **Dragon Master** » August 13th, 2006, 2:24 pm

maybe "devotee" or something of that type.

Post by **turin** » August 13th, 2006, 5:22 pm

Um... these do seem too similar to the celestials. You have to realize that not all of the celestials are angelic beings - some are humans, armed like crusaders, essentially identical to these guys. They're different, yes, but I don't think they're different enough to make two factions out of. It would be like having an Elensian faction and a Wesnothian faction.

JW · Post by JW » August 13th, 2006, 6:01 pm

turin wrote:Um... these do seem too similar to the celestials. You have to realize that not all of the celestials are angelic beings - some are humans, armed like crusaders, essentially identical to these guys. They're different, yes, but I don't think they're different enough to make two factions out of. It would be like having an Elensian faction and a Wesnothian faction.

Celestials aren't human; they're a race just like elves. None of the Celestials, however, are angelic beings. The ones that look human have simply lost their vestigial wings in adolescence.

Post by **turin** » August 13th, 2006, 6:02 pm

JW wrote:
turin wrote:Um... these do seem too similar to the celestials. You have to realize that not all of the celestials are angelic beings - some are humans, armed like crusaders, essentially identical to these guys. They're different, yes, but I don't think they're different enough to make two factions out of. It would be like having an Elensian faction and a Wesnothian faction.
Celestials aren't human; they're a race just like elves. None of the Celestials, however, are angelic beings. The ones that look human have simply lost their vestigial wings in adolescence.

Whatever. The point is that some of the Celestials look like humans, and some look like angelic beings, and all of them look almost exactly like the holy knights are going to look...

JW · Post by JW » August 13th, 2006, 6:06 pm

turin wrote:Whatever. The point is that some of the Celestials look like humans, and some look like angelic beings, and all of them look almost exactly like the holy knights are going to look...

Is that really the point?

I haven't downloaded the .zip, but his example looks very different from the current Celestial images...

Post by **turin** » August 13th, 2006, 6:10 pm

JW wrote:Is that really the point?

I haven't downloaded the .zip, but his example looks very different from the current Celestial images...

Yes. Whether the point is accurate or not is debatable, but that WAS the point.

Why did I have to use three posts to get this across?

Ryorin · Post by **Ryorin** » August 13th, 2006, 6:13 pm

Some of the units look wierd... (The Cannonneer comes to mind)

JW · Post by JW » August 13th, 2006, 6:22 pm

turin wrote:Why did I have to use three posts to get this across?

Because you don't say what you mean the first time you say it:

turin wrote:Um... these do seem too similar to the celestials. You have to realize that not all of the celestials are angelic beings - some are humans, armed like crusaders, essentially identical to these guys. They're different, yes, but I don't think they're different enough to make two factions out of. It would be like having an Elensian faction and a Wesnothian faction.

This said nothing about either factions appearance, it rather spoke to their culture/heritage/personality.

Basically, these 2 factions won't even collide in the same era, ever, so what's the problem even if they do have similarpersonalities or graphics? (Which they don't anyway.)

Any further discussion I think we should have in PMs. I don't want to hijack DMs thread.

Dragon Master · Post by **Dragon Master** » August 15th, 2006, 4:02 pm

Finished the Initiate of light. This guy, along with cleric of light, will be a token fighte. (AKA cheap, in large numbers)

JW · Post by JW » August 15th, 2006, 4:09 pm

That's actually a really neat outfit.

Flametrooper · Post by **Flametrooper** » August 15th, 2006, 7:58 pm

Is that dude anorexic or what?

Dragon Master · Post by **Dragon Master** » August 15th, 2006, 9:19 pm

He's not anorexic, he just has big abs. He doesn't look that skinny to me...
Anyway, here's the defender of the sun and warrior archon (lvl's 2&3) base frames. The defender of the sun looks really bad if you don't view him in game or in GIMP. I'm not as pleased with the warrior archon as most of my other units, any suggestions?

(BTW, thank you Jetryl for getting rid of that stupid arguement)

Dragon Master · Post by **Dragon Master** » August 16th, 2006, 1:19 am

Finished the cleric line. Cleric of day is best viewed in GIMP. I like how the magus archon came out this time, the fire effect is really neat. All that's left is the warrior ghost line, an jg's working on that. Expect some frames for the follower units soon.

Dragon Master · Post by **Dragon Master** » August 16th, 2006, 8:40 pm

Drake follower done. Now to do the elf, dwarf, suarian, merfolk, human, wose, goblin, naga, orc, and troll followers. damn that's a lot of units. On a side note, just like plague, undead are immune to convert. If anybody would like to make follower units for any of the above races I would greatly appreciate it. They just need to be plain, almost naked (w/ loin cloth or robe) and in a normal pose. I need help please! I should probably wait for the wose...