New castle grapchics (?)

-> What i might be working on · Post by **Eleazar** » February 2nd, 2006, 12:03 am

turin wrote:I was actually talking about the unit images, which definitely have a light source from the north-east, not south-east. However, since it appears you are right that all terrain has shadows from the south-east, I withdraw my complaint.

The reason I noticed the shadows with the castles, and with nothing else, is they are much more noticeable here - the tall, thin towers cast very noticeable shadows, as opposed to the villages, which don't.

Unit images shouldn't (and mostly don't) cast shadows to the right or left. If they did it would look odd when they flipped.

halleck · Post by **halleck** » February 2nd, 2006, 12:45 pm

With the exeption of the half-door thing i thought the castle looked fine. I didnt really notice the shadow.

Post by **pekka** » February 2nd, 2006, 1:41 pm

I've made a possible fix for the keep door problem. Here is the screenshot and the fixed tiles. Note that the corrected graphics don't mix with the old keep at all!

Post by **pekka** » February 2nd, 2006, 1:57 pm

I've drawn more ruin variations: ruin-concave-sw done. 5/12 ruined.

I've also started to sink the castle. The tiles should work with the swamp too. concave-sw, convex-se and convex-sw are done. There are some problems with partially sunken castles, but even the old tiles don't match well together then.

About the shadows. The light comes from the same direction as with the other buildings. If there is something which bothers someone, please go ahead an fix it. I've worked with them too long already and therefore I really couldn't care less.

Post by **freim** » February 2nd, 2006, 4:28 pm

Commited. The keep fix seemed to work as it should. Great work pekka.

Post by **pekka** » February 15th, 2006, 8:50 am

ruin-concave-se done plus some new sunken ruin tiles. Precisely one half of the new castle tiles has been ruined and sunked, yippee...

-> What i might be working on · Post by **Eleazar** » February 15th, 2006, 1:33 pm

pekka wrote:I've also started to sink the castle. The tiles should work with the swamp too. concave-sw, convex-se and convex-sw are done. There are some problems with partially sunken castles, but even the old tiles don't match well together then.

About the shadows. The light comes from the same direction as with the other buildings. If there is something which bothers someone, please go ahead an fix it. I've worked with them too long already and therefore I really couldn't care less.

The shaddows are correct.
The new sunken castle looks good, but the greater degree of sunkenness does concern me. It is an alias of shallow water and castle. (i believe best Def / worst MV is the default now?) Your version looks nearly useless for humans and other landwalkers.

Post by **pekka** » February 15th, 2006, 1:52 pm

Eleazar: You might be right. I based the new tiles directly to the older ones and the older walls are also under water, which should be impossible in shallow water. Maybe those tiles shouldn't be used with shallow water at all just because of that.

BTW, the current swamp terrain looks also impassable for land units. At least for me..

Post by **pekka** » February 20th, 2006, 12:42 pm

More new castle ruin tiles:

-> What i might be working on · Post by **Eleazar** » February 20th, 2006, 2:07 pm

pekka wrote:BTW, the current swamp terrain looks also impassable for land units. At least for me..

Yes, the ultimate challenge of terrain art has not yet been completed... a good looking swamp!

Post by **Kestenvarn** » February 20th, 2006, 2:45 pm

Perhaps if the swamp was created using the mountains method - photorealistic multihex marshlands.

Post by **pekka** » March 1st, 2006, 10:08 am

I've been busy lately, but I still managed to ruin some castle walls. Convex-w tiles done. Normal and sunken versions included.

~66% of the castle ruined. Counting the percentage done helps in odd way to think positively the exhausting workload on the ruin castle/keep..

Hee... I've done some sketches on orcish castle too.

Post by **pekka** » March 1st, 2006, 1:49 pm

As I told you about the orcish castle sketchings, here is a proposal for the orcish keep architecture. Castle walls would be made of the spikes and the tower sections would be shorter than in the human castle -> castle walls would be a bit encampment-like. They would fit more to the rogue-like lifestyle of the orcs than sturdy fortress walls IMHO.

I can't say my design would be too original... :/

Post by **freim** » March 1st, 2006, 1:52 pm

pekka wrote:As I told you about the orcish castle sketchings, here is a proposal for the orcish keep architecture. Castle walls would be made of the spikes and the tower sections would be shorter than in the human castle -> castle walls would be a bit encampment-like. They would fit more to the rogue-like lifestyle of the orcs than sturdy fortress walls IMHO.

I can't say my design would be too original... :/

Heh, clearly Warcraft-inspired, but I like it.

Btw, commited your latest batch of ruins.

Post by **Neoriceisgood** » March 1st, 2006, 4:43 pm

I'd like to work on castles, but I don't feel like getting perspective and all that hassle I'd have to figure out done,

I can easily emulate Pekka's style otherwise though.