An Unnatural Winter (MP Campaign)

Multiplayer Scenarios / Campaigns · Post by **Rhuvaen** » June 19th, 2007, 10:18 am

Version 0.5.0 is now on the 1.3.3 campaign server.

The villagers flee (not always a good idea, but generally gives players more of a chance to catch up), enemy traits depending on difficulty are now working, reworked the map a little, lowered Dil Gaddyn's starting gold but increased his village gold (making him a more powerful enemy if given the chance).

I think all those changes since 0.4.1 add a lot to the gameplay, and if you haven't played the new version for 1.3.3 yet you should!

Truper · Post by **Truper** » June 22nd, 2007, 1:01 am

I'm looking forward to trying it! Maybe Saturday...

Nosmos · Post by **Nosmos** » June 22nd, 2007, 10:10 am

we played teh first mission on challange
wasnt really hard, but we only had a 90 gold bonus in the end

something really strange : all the orcish archers and assassins only attacked melee, ever vs horses during day, only unit the archers did attack range where mages

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aggression=1.4
caution=0.7
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thats the setting for side 5
i always thought aggression shoud be 0-1.0 ? was that changed in 1.3.3 ?
and caution 0.7 + aggression 1.4 really looks strange
with aggression = 1.0 the cpu always attacks if it can do damage, i dont think caution will have an effect here

Multiplayer Scenarios / Campaigns · Post by **Rhuvaen** » June 25th, 2007, 5:17 pm

Truper wrote:I'm looking forward to trying it! Maybe Saturday...

So - did you?

Nosmos wrote:we played teh first mission on challange
wasnt really hard, but we only had a 90 gold bonus in the end

Yeah, it's still designed as part of a campaign - finishing it isn't really hard, but doing reasonably well is (like not losing lots of Drakes, getting and keeping some mages for those sides that won't be able to recruit mages later on and so on).

Nosmos wrote:something really strange : all the orcish archers and assassins only attacked melee, ever vs horses during day, only unit the archers did attack range where mages

Of course, that would also affect difficulty. I saw exactly the same when I tested it. I've used those AI settings since 1.0.2 and never had a problem with them. Checking out the wiki now I agree with you - I find a much cleaner description of aggression now and think I must have misinterpreted the information earlier! I believe earlier it said that values up to 2.0 have a meaning...

Thanks for pointing that out, Nosmos!

I'll try to change that and see if it was the problem.

EDIT: uploaded the fix as version 0.5.1.

Multiplayer Scenarios / Campaigns · Post by **Rhuvaen** » August 16th, 2007, 3:56 pm

I uploaded a new version of Unnatural Winter (0.5.2) onto the development campaign server (version 1.3.6).

I fixed some of the critical bugs with scenario two, and while technically it would have been possible to continue onwards with scenario two, I've taken it out because it still has so many issues and practically no "meat". So the good news is it's on its way, the other news is that I'm taking it to the dry dock until it is.

I corrected some possible bugs on the first scenario when some players positions aren't filled. This scenario is better than ever since version 0.5. So all in all, still worth a try.

Olf · Post by **Olf** » October 12th, 2007, 8:09 pm

Hi Rhuvaen!
Great Work you have done the last months! I load the newest version from development server (1.3.

and played it with friends in Hot Seat mode.
Because we could not play till the end of the first scenario we saved and tried to reload. But Wesnoth said there were "illegal characters" in the map.

Do you know anything about a problem with the new map scheme?

Unfortunaly I see no way to continue this fine game yet.

Update: I tested with stable version, it works here. Me and my friends will restart, use the stable version. Can you estimate it is a bug in your WML or a bug in C++ engine?

Best Regards,
Olf

Multiplayer Scenarios / Campaigns · Post by **Rhuvaen** » October 29th, 2007, 8:31 pm

Hi Olf,

Thanks for the kind words of appreciation.

Olf wrote:Because we could not play till the end of the first scenario we saved and tried to reload. But Wesnoth said there were "illegal characters" in the map.

Do you know anything about a problem with the new map scheme?

Are you sure it mentioned the map, and not the save in general?

Olf wrote:Unfortunaly I see no way to continue this fine game yet.

Update: I tested with stable version, it works here. Me and my friends will restart, use the stable version. Can you estimate it is a bug in your WML or a bug in C++ engine?

I'll look into it - it's a problem with my WML I suspect (although a quirkiness in the WML parser, too).

Website · Post by **Sapient** » October 30th, 2007, 5:50 am

I still support this map for mainline inclusion. You need to let Ivanovic know so he can approve it for the next stable. There is going to be a MAJOR string freeze soon. So hurry up and finish that dialogue if you haven't already.

Then you have to run it by Doc Paterson for the final stamp. Sorry I haven't been around much lately.

Multiplayer Scenarios / Campaigns · Post by **Rhuvaen** » October 30th, 2007, 12:55 pm

I just uploaded a fixed version 0.5.3 on the campaign server - saves should work now. In the process I also changed the gold/income locks so that they work.

Sapient, I'm pretty sure you don't mean this scenario, but Dark Forecast?

Website · Post by **Sapient** » October 31st, 2007, 1:03 am

whoops! yeah, I posted in the wrong thread. good catch.

Multiplayer Scenarios / Campaigns · Post by **Rhuvaen** » January 14th, 2008, 6:52 pm

I just realized this hadn't been updated for recent dev versions. Here's a quick release (v0.5.4 - on the add-on server) which is just wmllint run over it to make sure it's up-to-date for wesnoth 1.3.13 (and upcoming 1.3.14).

nelson · Post by **nelson** » March 19th, 2008, 11:19 pm

I just attempted to play Unnatural Winter MP 0.5.4 on Wesnoth 1.4, and had a fatal error in the 2nd level... I had a fencer controlled by side 1 walk onto the goblin banner, he said "ha! down with this rag!" and then the Error appeared:

Error while playing the game: game_error: invalid side(8) found in unit definition.

Can you please fix this or help me find a workaround? I was really enjoying the scenario until the game crashed.

Multiplayer Scenarios / Campaigns · Post by **Rhuvaen** » March 21st, 2008, 7:25 pm

Hi nelson,

Thanks for your appreciation.

The second scenario is a completely bugged, work-in-process mess that I am going to continue working on soon (I keep telling myself that for the last year or so, so it must be right

). I plan to concentrate on finishing this for 1.5, now that we have a stable version with MP campaign support.

Post by jb » March 21st, 2008, 9:43 pm

Rhuvaen

I am going to continue working on soon (I keep telling myself that for the last year or so, so it must be right )

You know, this has been an ongoing project for a long time. It would be a shame to leave this gem unfinished. I consider it in many ways the orginal MP campaign (even if it has more bugs than the swamp) and perhaps it's time to make it a priority to finish this one.

Right after you help me with my WML problems of course.

Multiplayer Scenarios / Campaigns · Post by **Rhuvaen** » May 18th, 2008, 12:13 am

jb wrote:It would be a shame to leave this gem unfinished.

Aye.

That's why I'm slowly polishing it up.

Another release, 0.5.6, concentrates on polishing the presentation - by adding story images and side-specific intro explanations - and makes it conform better with today's WML standards. Published for both the 1.4 stable and 1.5 versions.

Now I just want to add some score-keeping mechanism and report the scores in the epilogue, remove the death of any leader loss condition (so you can keep on playing when your friends are foolish), and then nothing is in the way of getting scenario 2 to run.

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