Why a "fish" can't hind in a water?

[Researcher]

You know that the wose can hind in a forest.
It is logical, because a wose ("big tree") can easily hind between other trees.
And the enemy finds them only if he moves his unit near the forest.

I do not understand, why everyone misses such an obvious idea:
a "fish" (Naga, for example) should be able to easily hind in a water!
Just like skeleton. "Fish" can move near the bottom of the river, not too fast,
so nobody will be able to notice a "fish" unless someone comes really near to the river.

[zookeeper]

No one has missed the idea, it's just not a good idea from a gameplay point of view.

[Captain_Wrathbow]

Good grief, didn't you read the replies in your other thread?

Pretty much all the same answers apply to this idea as well:
- Avoid realism-based arguments
- Would upset balance
- CABD in WML
- Un-KISS

[Ceres]

Nagas aren't "fish", they can't breathe water, as written in the in-game help.
Mermen can, but the other arguments still apply.

[powershot]

Nagas aren't "fish", they can't breathe water, as written in the in-game help.
Mermen can, but the other arguments still apply.

@Ceres:They can't!!! Most things I've seen on other games and stuff say the can.

@Reasercher: You can make your own "fish" faction. A bunch of super powered Mermen and Nagas.

[Giraffemonster]

Nagas aren't "fish", they can't breathe water, as written in the in-game help.
Mermen can, but the other arguments still apply.

After reading through this thread, I decided to read the race descriptions in the game. I always thought that Nagas could breathe underwater, but mermen/mermaids couldn't.

Having aquatic races with the submerge ability would be pretty overpowered though. Maybe the description for the mermen race should be different, as I don't see why the mermen wouldn't remain unseen through deep waters if they could.

[powershot]

Nagas aren't "fish", they can't breathe water, as written in the in-game help.
Mermen can, but the other arguments still apply.

After reading through this thread, I decided to read the race descriptions in the game. I always thought that Nagas could breathe underwater, but mermen/mermaids couldn't.

Having aquatic races with the submerge ability would be pretty overpowered though. Maybe the description for the mermen race should be different, as I don't see why the mermen wouldn't remain unseen through deep waters if they could.

Of course mermen can breathe underwater(...not to be mean).

Yes, Mermen could just go to the bottom of the river, but their attack would be lower.

[Giraffemonster]

Of course mermen can breathe underwater(...not to be mean).

Yes, Mermen could just go to the bottom of the river, but their attack would be lower.

Well it just appeared to me that since mermen have humanoid upper bodies, that they would have human respiratory organs as well. I guess that would also apply to nagas though, as they even look more like fish.

And it would still be useful though if the mermen were able to remain unseen in deep water. Maybe not shallow water such as a river, I think that would be more noticeable. If they could submerge in shallow water however, it would make sense that their attack would be lower. Maybe that could be implemented.

IMO, the idea wouldn't work that well. After all, a merman could choose either mobility or concealment in water, and that is what would lead to complications.

[Dixie]

Not even mention balance, it would make the game much more complicated for virtually no gain at all. It is un-KISS. Although it certainly CABD, so feel free to make an add-on for that purpose if you really want

[powershot]

Of course mermen can breathe underwater(...not to be mean).

Yes, Mermen could just go to the bottom of the river, but their attack would be lower.

Well it just appeared to me that since mermen have humanoid upper bodies, that they would have human respiratory organs as well. I guess that would also apply to nagas though, as they even look more like fish.

And it would still be useful though if the mermen were able to remain unseen in deep water. Maybe not shallow water such as a river, I think that would be more noticeable. If they could submerge in shallow water however, it would make sense that their attack would be lower. Maybe that could be implemented.

IMO, the idea wouldn't work that well. After all, a merman could choose either mobility or concealment in water, and that is what would lead to complications.

Yeah! Make an Add-on.

[Insinuator]

You know that the wose can hind in a forest.
It is logical, because a wose ("big tree") can easily hind between other trees.
And the enemy finds them only if he moves his unit near the forest.

I do not understand, why everyone misses such an obvious idea:
a "fish" (Naga, for example) should be able to easily hind in a water!
Just like skeleton. "Fish" can move near the bottom of the river, not too fast,
so nobody will be able to notice a "fish" unless someone comes really near to the river.

It's HIDE, not HIND. Hind refers to the rear of something.

And as far as your idea goes, what happens when you're fighting other Mermen? Why would they not be able to see you?

@Powershot & Giraffemonster: Naga are serpents. They're identified as that in most lore. Sometimes with multiple heads, sometimes with mystical powers, but serpents. No gills, not fish.

[powershot]

You know that the wose can hind in a forest.
It is logical, because a wose ("big tree") can easily hind between other trees.
And the enemy finds them only if he moves his unit near the forest.

I do not understand, why everyone misses such an obvious idea:
a "fish" (Naga, for example) should be able to easily hind in a water!
Just like skeleton. "Fish" can move near the bottom of the river, not too fast,
so nobody will be able to notice a "fish" unless someone comes really near to the river.

It's HIDE, not HIND. Hind refers to the rear of something.

And as far as your idea goes, what happens when you're fighting other Mermen? Why would they not be able to see you?

@Powershot & Giraffemonster: Naga are serpents. They're identified as that in most lore. Sometimes with multiple heads, sometimes with mystical powers, but serpents. No gills, not fish.

On Secret Saturdays they can go under water.

[Dixie]

You know, you don't have to reply to EVERYTHING. You should re-read what you wrote before posting and ask yourself if what you were gonna say really brings something to the discution. If not, maybe you should refrain yourself...

[Researcher]

Good grief, didn't you read the replies in your other thread?

Pretty much all the same answers apply to this idea as well:
- Avoid realism-based arguments
- Would upset balance
- CABD in WML
- Un-KISS

Not even mention balance, it would make the game much more complicated for virtually no gain at all. It is un-KISS. Although it certainly CABD, so feel free to make an add-on for that purpose if you really want

Some people here think that it will make the game "very complicated"...

Then let the woses lose the ability to hide in a forest!
I think it is very complicated, un-KISS, ruining the balance, and nobody understands it! /sarcasm

[powershot]

Good grief, didn't you read the replies in your other thread?

Pretty much all the same answers apply to this idea as well:
- Avoid realism-based arguments
- Would upset balance
- CABD in WML
- Un-KISS

Not even mention balance, it would make the game much more complicated for virtually no gain at all. It is un-KISS. Although it certainly CABD, so feel free to make an add-on for that purpose if you really want

Some people here think that it will make the game "very complicated"...

Then let the woses lose the ability to hide in a forest!
I think it is very complicated, un-KISS, ruining the balance, and nobody understands it! /sarcasm

You've got a point. The Wose can regenerate and ambush while the Iron mauler can't, what's up with that.