Sliding on ice

[zookeeper]

Can be done in WML, too.

[Elvish_Pillager]

My idea can't be done in WML!

[kiet]

Isn´t that why units move so slow on ice,since it´s so slippy?
Well,the sliding on ice function isn´t so useful,what does it do for good anyway?

[bioman]

Isn´t that why units move so slow on ice,since it´s so slippy?
Well,the sliding on ice function isn´t so useful,what does it do for good anyway?

You could, as already mentioned, make some very varied scenarios/campaigns with it - just imagine Wesnoth Hockey or something.

Anyway, I like the sound of it - and the whole scale argument sort of doesn't work when not very much is to scale in Wesnoth in the first place.

Also, not many maps use ice in great areas so its not as if a unit would slide very far.

[kiet]

Hmm..............Wesnoth Hockey,we have Wesbowl already but this can be fun too.
However,implenting this on a scenario may be good,but not for the whole game.
Doesn´t units move slowly to prevent themselves from sliding?

[shevegen]

The scale argument is moot since as far as I know a hero is still only one unit. And cant represent, what was said - one full square equaling miles.
It would be different if you'd mean every unit would be accompanied by body guards, but before you claim that the "scale" discussion of one square is valid, then lets make it simple:

- How large is one square, and where is this defined?

[Ranger M]

- How large is one square, and where is this defined?

There is no defined square size, it can vary from 1 meter to 1 mile, and the number of units represented can vary from 1 to 1,000 (I always assume that Heros have bodyguards), everything is up to the discresion of the scenario/campaign designer, and your imagination.

[toms]

You basically can make maps in much different scales. I would for an example say, at dungeon/building maps, one hex is not very much.

[turin]

There is no defined square size, it can vary from 1 meter to 1 mile, and the number of units represented can vary from 1 to 1,000 (I always assume that Heros have bodyguards), everything is up to the discresion of the scenario/campaign designer, and your imagination.

Exactly. In town scenarios, it is probably only 1-3 meters, although it might be more like 10 m. In river-crossing scenarios like the Ford of Abez, it is probably still only 10-20 m. But in big scenarios like Xenophobia, it could be half a mile, two miles.

This IS the official definition. If you don't like it... you'll live.

[kiet]

But the best thing to do is to not think about it at all,just play and have fun.
Anyway,I have always wondered a thing,how can your and the enemie leader talk with each other if it´s a mile between them?
I several scenarios,if they want to speak with each other,they might send a unit that deliver a message instead.
But no.............That would make the game too boring seeing an enemie unit near your keep every scenario.

[Dragon Master]

It would also be boring to watch the enemy unit travel unharmed all the way to your keep. I think some campaign should make you have to wait for messengers so that there are periods of misunderstanding resulting in killing possible allies and assassins disguised as messengers. That was a bit OT

[irrevenant]

There is no defined square size, it can vary from 1 meter to 1 mile, and the number of units represented can vary from 1 to 1,000 (I always assume that Heros have bodyguards), everything is up to the discretion of the scenario/campaign designer, and your imagination.

Exactly. In town scenarios, it is probably only 1-3 meters, although it might be more like 10 m. In river-crossing scenarios like the Ford of Abez, it is probably still only 10-20 m. But in big scenarios like Xenophobia, it could be half a mile, two miles.
This IS the official definition. If you don't like it... you'll live.

Turin, I trust you're just referring to the hex-size comment being official policy, not the one about the unit icon representing multiple individuals?

It would be somewhat ludicrous to have a single icon represent up to 1,000 horsemen units all called Dacyn and all with (eg.) Strong, Resilient traits. The units have unique names for a reason.

WINHoMM.

[Ranger M]

It would be somewhat ludicrous to have a single icon represent up to 1,000 horsemen units all called Dacyn and all with (eg.) Strong, Resilient traits. The units have unique names for a reason.

WINHoMM.

Yeah, but I doubt that Konrad fought each battle in HttT with (figures out the average that I used) about 13 soldiers, so each unit must be more than one in that case (the traits could easily be considered a average of all the units traits, so a unit with strong has a significant amount of its unit being stronger than normal, so they as a whole do more damage)

[scott]

Turin, I trust you're just referring to the hex-size comment being official policy, not the one about the unit icon representing multiple individuals?

It would be somewhat ludicrous to have a single icon represent up to 1,000 horsemen units all called Dacyn and all with (eg.) Strong, Resilient traits. The units have unique names for a reason.

WINHoMM.

Both aspects of scale have always been intentionally ambiguous. In the case of units, your arguments are explained away when it's appropriate to think of a unit as a platoon, company, or battalion-size group of soldiers, and applicable when a soldier is a single unit.

[turin]

Turin, I trust you're just referring to the hex-size comment being official policy, not the one about the unit icon representing multiple individuals?

Err... right. Although I don't think the Wesnoth official policy rules out multiple units in a hex either.