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As promised, the responses to ColdSteel in a spoiler tag. I really don't get what you're trying to argue here. Why would human adaptability mean they dominate all environments? ... Sure, humans can live in the desert, but the drakes and jinn are better at it. Basically that is my point of contentio...

@Celtic_Minstrel -- responded to your points inside of the spoiler: I don't see it as humans who are able to beat the desert natives at their own game. Surely they're not as good at desert survival as drakes or jinn, for example. They've just found ways to make up for their deficiencies (for example...

unless the racename is used extensively elsewhere that I'm forgetting about, In the last thread, someone said the race name might be used by the name generator for spawned units. So if dunefolk are listed as race human then they might receive pseudo-western-european-antiquity sounding names. Or the...

Detailed response to Celtic_Minstrel folded for thread readability: 1. Wesnoth's world is biologically diverse. The level of adaptation to their environment is very different between these races, though. Merfolk, trolls, and woses are the only ones I could describe as "profoundly" adapted....

I do absolutely believe that there's a lot more work that can be done to improve the Dunefolk, but for now the goal is only to settle on the faction's race name and unit prefix+names and have them updated prior to 1.14 being released. Oh, I did not realize this was only for 1.14. The topic post rea...

As they are now the dunefolk do not fit wesnoth. They are a purely human, magic less, historically themed faction inserted into a fantasy setting. The core problem is their being made up entirely of an already thoroughly used race (humans) and it is such an issue for the following reasons: 1. Wesnot...

Your first post concerned quite a number of things you would keep the same, beyond the name. But the more these changes are made to fit the consistency and flavor of the wesnoth world, the more "Dunefolk" would become a separate faction from UMC "Khalifate", so that the latter wo...

Apparently I'm late to the party, but I have a few things I want to say... Do keep in mind that this thread only concerns a candidate to become the seventh mainline multiplayer faction and not replacing the UMC Khalifate faction (which it is already beginning to diverge from with this name change)....

Please run the Dunefolk versus Southerners poll separately and first though: Dunefolk Southerners Then if Dunefolk wins, that would be the time to run Dunefolk versus Dunelanders : Dunefolk Dunelanders Otherwise you risk spliting the "Dune" vote so that Southerners wins unfairly.

I agree with the factions themselves and how they are built. (Thats one of the reasons im not a fan of Khalifate.) I dont want drastic changes, i dont want to add new units etc. but some matchups are just so ridicilously one sided it hurts. Loyalist vs Knalga is the best example. It's a nightmare. ...

On the other hand ladder organizers could create a statistics for match ups when you report win and this way we could see the numbers instead of 1000 different opinions. Well there was in the past an even more precise opinion filtration system, where a specific opinion would be tested by the opinio...

If you're going to approach anyone with balance suggestions, it'd be zookeeper, but it is true that there's really no single person or group that's in charge of balancing mainline anymore. What about promoting zookeeper to this position then? In my opinion all default factions are very well balance...

The precedent is being set for campaigns, not other factions (though, yeah that too if something unpredictable happens down the road). This topic is about a mainline multiplayer faction and its constituent parts, campaigns are a secondary consideration at best. And campaigns rely heavily on custom ...

Since the Khalifate have a fundamentally different movetype than Wesnothian humans, I wonder if it would be confusing for a newer player. Good point, I got so preoccupied with their alignment differences I forgot dunefolk also have a unique movetype from humans. I would be in favor of keeping the t...

while most experienced players just know that there is either nothing wrong with any units or there is no certainty about what exactly should be changed and in what proportion to achieve that "golden balance". Actually, I wonder if this is thoroughly true or if experienced players just do...