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Would you like enemy/ally leaders and strong units to obtain some suitable generated titles?

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Re: Legend of the Invincibles

Post by Dugi » July 11th, 2018, 10:06 pm

There would not be too many title generators, because they could cover more unit groups. There might be chivalrous, heroic, wizardly, dark, criminal, warlike, sneaky, brutish and maybe one or two others and each group of units would get name from one or several groups of titles. Orcs could get warlike and possibly also brutish depending on type and warlike would also be used by human soldiers and brutish would also work on trolls. I think this is evolving into a feasible idea.

You can currently give a unit a title by renaming it and I don't want to prevent you from doing it, but I guess it cannot compensate for this.

I think I could replace the current poll with this. The Skeletal Dragon is replaced by the new sprite with custom animations already anyway.

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Re: Legend of the Invincibles

Post by Konrad2 » July 12th, 2018, 7:30 am

That sounds cool. :D You might want to add ghostlike/ethereal and fae/spiritual. ^^
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Re: Legend of the Invincibles

Post by Dugi » July 16th, 2018, 10:51 am

I have published a new version. Changes:

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Added 5 new items
Demons now have evil titles behind their names
Updated the Skeletal Dragon to use the new sprite, with custom animations
Updated Orcish Nightblade to be closer to the newly added mainline one
Fixed a lot of lesser bugs, mostly compatibility problems with 1.14/code]

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Re: Legend of the Invincibles

Post by Graemewf » July 19th, 2018, 6:23 pm

Hi there, just enjoying Wesnoth on iPad and when playing LotI using the latest iPad release, after quitting and restarting the game and loading one of the saved scenarios the major protagonists and other loyal characters disappear from the game. I have done the recent add in update but still the same issue. Using iPad 4 mini.

Thanks

G

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Re: Legend of the Invincibles

Post by BTIsaac » July 19th, 2018, 8:27 pm

Hey, just an idea. If you're adding titles for strong units, wouldn't it make more sense for units to get their titles when the "aware of legacy possessed" advancement is picked? At that point, they could get a title based on their legacy (ex: "the lightbringer"/"the bright" for legacy of light, "the swift"/"the tireless" for legacy of the free, "the shunned"/"the outcast" for legacy of exile, "of the cold north", etc).

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Re: Legend of the Invincibles

Post by Konrad2 » July 19th, 2018, 8:52 pm

If we go along with that idea I'd prefer that the legacy thing 'unlocks' a additional part of the title, instead of making up 100% of the title. The legacy doesn't decide what kind of person they were in this life, it just adds another set of abilities. Like, a Shadow Prince being called 'the Cruel' unlocking legacy of light is called 'the cruel lightbringer' (or something like that, it would probably be easier if the new title is always added before or after the old title. A new adjective would probably best, so the titles are somewhat compatible.)
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Re: Legend of the Invincibles

Post by BTIsaac » July 20th, 2018, 8:36 am

I thought of something along the lines of each legacy having a different version for each unit group. Sure the legacy doesn't define who they were up until that point but that is where the unit becomes a real badass and starts taking names.

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Re: Legend of the Invincibles

Post by Dugi » July 21st, 2018, 9:20 am

Graemewf wrote:Hi there, just enjoying Wesnoth on iPad and when playing LotI using the latest iPad release, after quitting and restarting the game and loading one of the saved scenarios the major protagonists and other loyal characters disappear from the game.
You gave me way to little info. Which scenario? Was it a start scenario save or an autosave or was it saved at some turn? Can you upload that save file? Furthermore, I don't have an iPad, so if it's an iPad-only problem, I can't do anything about it.
BTIsaac wrote:I thought of something along the lines of each legacy having a different version for each unit group.
There might be 10 unit groups, there are about 10 legacies, that would lead to 100 combinations. Addressing each one of them specifically is not very doable. In this case, I'd prefer to stick with Konrad2's idea.

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Re: Legend of the Invincibles

Post by BTIsaac » July 21st, 2018, 10:51 am

Dugi wrote:
July 21st, 2018, 9:20 am
There might be 10 unit groups, there are about 10 legacies, that would lead to 100 combinations. Addressing each one of them specifically is not very doable. In this case, I'd prefer to stick with Konrad2's idea.
Only 100 titles at most and probably not even that much. Some unit groups could use the same title for a legacy, and some legacies can have a universal title that's the same for all unit groups.

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Re: Legend of the Invincibles

Post by Thantonous » July 21st, 2018, 6:53 pm

Graemewf wrote:
July 19th, 2018, 6:23 pm
Hi there, just enjoying Wesnoth on iPad and when playing LotI using the latest iPad release, after quitting and restarting the game and loading one of the saved scenarios the major protagonists and other loyal characters disappear from the game. I have done the recent add in update but still the same issue. Using iPad 4 mini.

Thanks

G
I am having same problem I also 80 percent of time can not even get campaign to load.

Thantonous

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Re: Legend of the Invincibles

Post by Dugi » July 21st, 2018, 7:10 pm

BTIsaac wrote:
July 21st, 2018, 10:51 am
Dugi wrote:
July 21st, 2018, 9:20 am
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Only 100 titles at most and probably not even that much. Some unit groups could use the same title for a legacy, and some legacies can have a universal title that's the same for all unit groups.
There would not be many variations then and it would be hard to find out something meaningful for odd combinations, like a goblin with legacy of kings.

Actually, I have implemented a solution to this elsewhere earlier, but all implementation is in C++ and it was not a trivial algorithm. Implementing that in lua would be a challenge (doing it in WML sounds completely unthinkable).
Thantonous wrote:
July 21st, 2018, 6:53 pm
Graemewf wrote:
July 19th, 2018, 6:23 pm
...
I am having same problem I also 80 percent of time can not even get campaign to load.

Thantonous
So it is probably an iOS problem, can you report it to the iOS maintainer? Btw, what does it say when it does not load?

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