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Re: Dunefolk Rework - Unit Naming

Post by CrossBreed » June 7th, 2019, 12:56 pm

It means "Nachkomme" or "Sprössling" in German. ;)

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Re: Dunefolk Rework - Unit Naming

Post by Xalzar » June 7th, 2019, 1:29 pm

ghype wrote:
June 7th, 2019, 12:53 pm
I have no idea what "Scion" means and didn't found any reference by googling which might help me understand ...
From Google:
https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/scion
meaning n°2: basically it's a descendant of a well-known family

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Re: Dunefolk Rework - Unit Naming

Post by ghype » June 7th, 2019, 3:22 pm

Ok.
Desert folks have many tales and myths. Dune Legends seems a bit more appropriate then Dune Scion. Dune Scion sounds so ... unfamiliar.
But just my opinion.

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Re: Dunefolk Rework - Unit Naming

Post by CrossBreed » June 7th, 2019, 4:31 pm

Wikipedia defines "legend" as "a historical narrative, a symbolic representation of folk belief." So i'm not sure if a living person would be denoted a legend.
There is also "living legend", but I believe that's more of a modern term.

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Re: Dunefolk Rework - Unit Naming

Post by ghype » June 7th, 2019, 5:17 pm

Good point. Anyone knows a word synonymous to "Legend" as in a legendary fighter rather then a myth/tale?

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Re: Dunefolk Rework - Unit Naming

Post by ghype » June 7th, 2019, 7:20 pm

Not sure if you are aware, but we are actually using this for the Lv3 Healer, the advancement to Apothecary: Dune Luminary

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Re: Dunefolk Rework - Unit Naming

Post by EarthCake » June 7th, 2019, 7:37 pm

Phenomenon?

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Re: Dunefolk Rework - Unit Naming

Post by Edwylm » June 7th, 2019, 10:02 pm

ghype wrote:
June 7th, 2019, 5:17 pm
Good point. Anyone knows a word synonymous to "Legend" as in a legendary fighter rather then a myth/tale?
some ideas
an impressive or outstanding example of a particular quality
prodigy
paragon
exemplar

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Re: Dunefolk Rework - Unit Naming

Post by ghype » June 8th, 2019, 12:04 am

try to put a "Dune" in front of them. None sound good...

Dune Prodigy
Dune Paragon
Dune Exemplar
Dune Phenomenon

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Re: Dunefolk Rework - Unit Naming

Post by Celtic_Minstrel » June 8th, 2019, 3:39 am

About "scion": the dictionary definition (according to Wiktionary) is indeed something about descendants, though rather than "descandent of a well-known house" I think the intended meaning is more that they're the originators of said house.

But the term has been used in Dungeons and Dragons with a slightly different meaning, referring to someone who wields a legendary weapon with great skill. (For example, D&D 3.5 Unearthed Arcana.) So given that sense, I think it would be suitable here.

About other suggestions people have come up with: Prodigy and examplar are kinda weird-sounding, phenomenon doesn't really make sense... I'd say "paragon" is the best by far.

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Re: Dunefolk Rework - Unit Naming

Post by Xalzar » June 8th, 2019, 9:12 am

I fully support Dune Paragon, its meaning fits: it means that person is exemplary and a model of excellence, of what quality is up to us to decide in this case; we can focus on martial skills or virtues or leadership, probably all of them are to be considered for such a title. I like it.

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Re: Dunefolk Rework - Unit Naming

Post by ghype » June 8th, 2019, 9:59 am

A day and night passed and looking back on it, these names don't sound that bad after all. Currently we are having this ... Any thoughts on wether the Lv3 Chakram shoudl be called Windblade or Bladewhirler ? The old candidate Bladewind wasn't like that much in the end.



Dune Soldier, Dune Captain, Dune Warmaster
Dune Soldier, Dune Swordsman, Dune Blademaster, Dune Scion / Dune Paragon


Naga Slasher, Naga Dervish, Naga Executioner
Naga Slasher, Naga Ringcaster, Naga Windblade / Naga Bladewhirler


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Re: Dunefolk Rework - Unit Naming

Post by CrossBreed » June 8th, 2019, 10:01 am

I agree that Paragon is a great choice. It has my vote :)

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Re: Dunefolk Rework - Unit Naming

Post by Xalzar » June 8th, 2019, 4:27 pm

ghype wrote:
June 8th, 2019, 9:59 am
Naga Windblade
There are weapons named "wind and fire wheels" which are basically chakrams but melee only. If the lv3 Naga uses them in melee too it could be a nice reference to an existing weapon.
ghype wrote:
June 8th, 2019, 9:59 am
Naga Bladewhirler
It is interesting that "to whirl" means "to spin or cause something to spin" (here) which means it could even be used for the advancement of the Naga Dervish.

I'm torn between the two, maybe I need a refreshment of the unit stats to decide. Let's also notice that both use a generic "blade" in the name, which does not really specifies the real weapon unlike "Ringcaster".

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