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Wesnoth Life Open Cup for Teams - The 2018 edition

Post by ReNoM » August 2nd, 2018, 7:09 am

Wesnoth Life Open Cup for Teams
The 2018 edition

The organizer of the tournament - ReNoM
The organizer assistants - igorbat99, AncientGeneral, Rovik, marat
Game version - 1.14

Preamble
Wesnoth Life is a russian-speaking Wesnoth community which was founded on August 12, 2008. Thus, 12th August of this year is the 10th birthday of Wesnoth Life. As an birthday-tied event, I'm decided to organize the first Russian Open Cup for 2 player teams.

Format
It's an elimination tournament.

Who can participate?
Teams of two players from the same country (E.g. Russia, Ukraine, Belarus, Kazakhstan, the Czech Republic, the United Kingdom, Brazil, Argentina, China, Japan and any others).

Deadlines, terms, other time conditions
Each team have to play one game during each calendar week. The game days is Saturday and Sunday. The start time of all the games is pre-defined. It's 12:00 UTC. If the game won't finished until 18:00 UTC, it should be saved and continued at the next weekend (anyway, if both teams and the assistant accept the game continuation after 18:00 UTC, it can be continued until anybody refuse it). The calendar of the tournament will be published later. Most of the games in the first sub-tree (a half of the full tree) will be played on Saturday. In the second sub-tree, games mostly be played on Sunday.
Each team has two extra options to skip one week. Maximum one skip is allowed during the one tournament stage (e.g. 1/16, 1/8). To take a skip, you must inform the organizer or any assistant until Friday 6 p.m. (18:00 UTC).
A number of games in the round depends on which stage of the tournament it is:
1/16 (or the qualifying round), 1/8 - 1 game;
1/4, 1/2, the third place match - Best of 3 (2 or 3 games);
Final - Best of 5 (3, 4 or 5 games).
The tournament starts at the next weekend (11th-12th August) on 25th-26th August and will end approximately in November or December of this year (depends on the number of teams).

Team rating
Team rating is calculated as following:
Ladder ELO of Player 1 + Ladder ELO of Player 2 + Wesnoth Life ELO of Player 1 + Wesnoth Life ELO of Player 2.
If any of ELO rating doesn't exists, the 1500 ELO will be used.

Toss (draw) rules
There will be two qualifying rounds - the first is for the russian-speaking players, the second one is for all the others. The goal is to get an equal number of Wesnoth Life players and other players for the first round.
The first round (1/8 or 1/16 if the team count is 32 or more). In this round Russians will play with non-Russians (the reason for two separate qualifying rounds).
The qualifying rounds will be tossed by following rules:
Teams will be allocated to two pots (the number of teams in the pot is the same) based on a team rating. Each drawed pair will consist one team from the first pot an one team from the second.
Teams in the first round will be tossed by following rules:
Russian teams will be allocated to two pots based on a team rating. Non-russian teams will be allocated to two pots too (the same rule). Best ranked Russian teams will be paired with worst ranked non-Russian teams. Best ranked non-Russian teams will be paired with worst ranked Russian teams.
The second round will be tossed without considering any ratings.
Some extra rules may be added, e.g. putting best rated teams in the different sub-trees. Anyway, the extra rules won't break the described above.

Game organization
As described above, the games will be played at the same time every week. You must not host the game. The organizers will do it for you. Only what you need - be on time (12:00 UTC) on pre-defined day. Max possible delay to appear is 15 minutes (to enter the hosted game). If you don't appear, the rival team will be awarded a walkover (it will be applied only for the skipped game, not for all the games in the round).

Game settings (for information purposes)
1. :muteall
2. default era (without khalifate)
3. no mirror
4. observers
5. map settings
6. time limit - 300/300/300/0
7. random factions
8. no restarts (yeah, it's Battle for Wesnoth)

How to participate?
If you want to participate in the tournament, please write a message in this topic in the following format:
1. Name of your team
2. Player 1 (a nickname on the official server, on the ladder (if exists), on Wesnoth Life (if exists))
3. Player 2 (a nickname on the official server, on the ladder (if exists), on Wesnoth Life (if exists))
4. Country
5. Timezone (UTC format)

Also, you can write preferred day for games (Saturday or Sunday). If it's possible, I'll put your team in the sub-tree where all the games (except for the final, the third place games and the qualifying round) will be played in the same day (Saturday or Sunday).

Scenario list
Full list - Bath of Glory, Geothermal, Loris River, Xanthe Chaos, Blue Water Province, Clash
Qualification - Bath of Glory
1/4 - Geothermal
1/2 - Bath of Glory, Xanthe Chaos, Blue Water Province

Tournament tree

Calendar
(QF) August 25, 2018: Fathers and Sons vs Ultima (Bath of Glory)
(QF) August 25, 2018: Fortuna vs We Have Flyswatter (Bath of Glory)
(QF) August 26, 2018: The Creators vs Baskerville (Bath of Glory)
(QF) August 26, 2018: Newbies FC vs DarkSide (Bath of Glory)
(1/4) September 01, 2018: Karmic Lizards vs DarkSide (Geothermal)
(1/4) September 01, 2018: Knockout Artists vs Fathers and Sons (Geothermal) (Fathers and Sons took a skip)
(1/4) September 02, 2018: DioBao vs Fortuna (Geothermal)
(1/4) September 02, 2018: 1 vs The Creators (Geothermal) (1 took a skip)
(1/4) September 08, 2018: Knockout Artists vs Fathers and Sons (Geothermal) (Knockout Artists took a skip)
(1/4) September 09, 2018: 1 vs The Creators (Geothermal)
(1/4) September 15, 2018: Knockout Artists vs Fathers and Sons (Geothermal)
(1/2) September 16, 2018: Fortuna vs 1 (Bath of Glory)
(1/2) September 22, 2018: Karmic Lizards vs Knockout Artists (Bath of Glory) (due to the organization issue)
(1/2) September 23, 2018: Fortuna vs 1 (Xanthe Chaos) (Fortuna took a skip)
(1/2) September 29, 2018: Karmic Lizards vs Knockout Artists (Bath of Glory) (Karmic Lizards took a skip)
(1/2) September 30, 2018: Fortuna vs 1 (Xanthe Chaos)
(1/2) October 06, 2018: Fortuna vs 1 (Blue Water Province)
(1/2) October 07, 2018: Karmic Lizards vs Knockout Artists (Bath of Glory)
(1/2) October 13, 2018: Karmic Lizards vs Knockout Artists (Xanthe Chaos) (wasn't finished due to force majeure)
(1/2) October 20, 2018: Karmic Lizards vs Knockout Artists (Xanthe Chaos)
(1/2) October 27, 2018: Karmic Lizards vs Knockout Artists (Blue Water Province)

List of teams
1. Fortuna (gnidaoL, Talos), Italy, UTC+2.
2. DarkSide (reza-math, n00bs), Iran, UTC+3.
3. Ultima (Keither/Алекс, 27pyc), Russia, UTC+5/UTC+10.
4. Baskerville (Keseris, artnewsman), Russia, UTC+7.
5. Fathers and Sons (Scaramush, Xrom), Belarus, UTC+3.
6. 1 (Elder2, athelas), Poland, UTC+2.
7. Newbies FC (NanRoig, clmates), Spain, UTC+1.
8. Knockout Artists (5hadowVeil, Kalin), Bulgaria, UTC+3.
9. Karmic Lizards (Darkkey, Kral), Russia, UTC+2/UTC+3.
10. DioBao (diomed, MasterBao), Russia, UTC+3/UTC+4.
11. The Creators (ReNoM, True), Russia, UTC+3.
12. We Have Flyswatter (NymmeL, Horus2), Hungary, UTC+1.

Taken skips
Fathers and Sons - 1 (1/4)
Knockout Artists - 1 (1/4)
1 - 1 (1/4)
Fortuna - 1 (1/2)
Karmic Lizards - 1 (1/2)

Rankings
1. DioBao (diomed, MasterBao) - 7168 (2149 (L1) + 1814 (L2) + 1562 (WL1) + 1643 (WL2))
2. 1 (Elder2, athelas) - 6829 (2194 (L1) + 1500 (L2) + 1635 (WL1) + 1500 (WL2))
3. Knockout Artists (5hadowVeil, Kalin) - 6708 (2236 (L1) + 1500 (L2) + 1472 (WL1) + 1500 (WL2))
4. Karmic Lizards (Darkkey, Kral) - 6619 (1547 (L1) + 1940 (L2) + 1418 (WL1) + 1714 (WL2))
5. Fortuna (gnidaoL, Talos) - 6553 (1856 (L1) + 1697 (L2) + 1500 (WL1) + 1500 (WL2))
6. Newbies FC (NanRoig, clmates) - 6397 (2026 (L1) + 1426 (L2) + 1445 (WL1) + 1500 (WL2))
7. Fathers and Sons (Scaramush, Xrom) - 6369 (1801 (L1) + 1500 (L2) + 1546 (WL1) + 1522 (WL2))
8. We Have Flyswatter (NymmeL, Horus2) - 6301 (1463 (L1) + 1838 (L2) + 1500 (WL1) + 1500 (WL2))
9. The Creators (ReNoM, True) - 6225 (1678 (L1) + 1374 (L2) + 1612 (WL1) + 1561 (WL2))
10. Ultima (Keither/Алекс, 27pyc) - 6095 (1429 (L1) + 1555 (L2) + 1505 (WL1) + 1606 (WL2))
11. DarkSide (reza-math, n00bs) - 6000 (1500 (L1) + 1500 (L2) + 1500 (WL1) + 1500 (WL2))
12 Baskerville (Keseris, artnewsman) - 6000 (1500 (L1) + 1500 (L2) + 1500 (WL1) + 1500 (WL2))

Timezones
UTC+1, UTC+2, UTC+3, UTC+4, UTC+5, UTC+7, UTC+10.

I'll edit this post, so the actual information will be here. Also, any updates to the rules is applicable and possible.

We're waiting for you!
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Re: Wesnoth Life Open Cup for Teams - The 2018 edition

Post by ReNoM » August 8th, 2018, 5:31 am

Since there are no teams which are already registered as tournament participants, I'm announcing the extra condition for the tournament existence. The tournament will happen, if at least 6 (six) teams have registered until 18:00 UTC, Friday (10th August).

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Re: Wesnoth Life Open Cup for Teams - The 2018 edition

Post by Zap-Zarap » August 8th, 2018, 11:27 am

hello.
what would happen if a team is mixed russian/other language? is that allowed?
I like beavers.

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Re: Wesnoth Life Open Cup for Teams - The 2018 edition

Post by gnidaoL » August 8th, 2018, 1:34 pm

Team Name: Fortuna

Player1: gnidaoL - Ladder nick: gnidaoL - Wesnoth Life Ladder nick: none

Player2: Talos - Ladder nick: Talos - Wesnoth Life Ladder nick: none

Country: ITALY

GMT+2 Roma

About rules, why shuffle sides it shuffle the teams members too XD and the timer is so short...
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Re: Wesnoth Life Open Cup for Teams - The 2018 edition

Post by enclave » August 8th, 2018, 4:27 pm

1 week to register :D I hope you find players, idea is nice, i will love to watch :) team of same country is really strange :D but it's fun!
What questions me more is what maps will it be? :D And it's still funny that you gave it just 1 week to register :D I follow lot of wesnoth events but this topic I only noticed today... how will people join this if they don't know about it? :DDDDDD nobody talks about it :D

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Re: Wesnoth Life Open Cup for Teams - The 2018 edition

Post by ReNoM » August 9th, 2018, 7:01 am

Zap-Zarap wrote:
August 8th, 2018, 11:27 am
hello.
what would happen if a team is mixed russian/other language? is that allowed?
It's allowed if both players are from the same country, otherwise not.
gnidaoL wrote:
August 8th, 2018, 1:34 pm
Team Name: Fortuna

Player1: gnidaoL - Ladder nick: gnidaoL - Wesnoth Life Ladder nick: none

Player2: Talos - Ladder nick: Talos - Wesnoth Life Ladder nick: none

Country: ITALY

UTC?? maybe GMT? (GMT+2) i dont understand what shall i put in the point 5 for register

About rules, why shuffle sides it shuffle the teams members too XD and the timer is so short...
Yeah, the GMT time is approximately the same as the UTC time. You can write a timezone in the GMT format, if you want.
About shuffling... As I know, it doesn't shuffle the players between the teams. If that isn't true, please tell me.
enclave wrote:
August 8th, 2018, 4:27 pm
1 week to register :D I hope you find players, idea is nice, i will love to watch :) team of same country is really strange :D but it's fun!
What questions me more is what maps will it be? :D And it's still funny that you gave it just 1 week to register :D I follow lot of wesnoth events but this topic I only noticed today... how will people join this if they don't know about it? :DDDDDD nobody talks about it :D
I've already emailed all the members from Wesnoth Life, also I've told all the other players who I know. If somebody could help me to invite players to the tournament, I'll be happy. Please write a PM to me, if you want to help. If there is a chance to get required number of teams, I'll extend the registration period.

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Re: Wesnoth Life Open Cup for Teams - The 2018 edition

Post by Krogen » August 9th, 2018, 8:53 am

I don't think i can participate on this one, but if you really want this tournament to have a chance, you should reconsider the same-country teams rule. It's hard enough to find another player who is willing to sign up, it's almost impossible to find one who is from the same country too. Activity of the MP community is worse than ever, if a tournament is going to be successful now, it can't limit itself with rules like this.
Just an opinion.
"A lion doesn't concern himself with the opinions of the sheep." - Tywin Lannister

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Re: Wesnoth Life Open Cup for Teams - The 2018 edition

Post by ReNoM » August 9th, 2018, 10:20 am

The idea is to make something like IWT 2016, but provide more opportunity for countries which don't have enough players for such large teams like in IWT 2016. At the same time, countries which have enough players for teams like in IWT 2016 (9 players) are allowed to have multiple teams in the tournament.

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Re: Wesnoth Life Open Cup for Teams - The 2018 edition

Post by reza-math » August 9th, 2018, 12:56 pm

1. Name of your team: DarkSide
2. Player 1 (reza-math)
3. Player 2 (n00bs)
4. iran
5. Timezone (+3 GMT)

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Re: Wesnoth Life Open Cup for Teams - The 2018 edition

Post by ReNoM » August 9th, 2018, 1:11 pm

reza-math wrote:
August 9th, 2018, 12:56 pm
1. Name of your team: DarkSide
2. Player 1 (reza-math)
3. Player 2 (n00bs)
4. iran
5. Timezone (+3 GMT)
Hi reza-math. Thanks for your application. Please provide Ladder and Wesnoth Life nicknames of players (if exists).

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Re: Wesnoth Life Open Cup for Teams - The 2018 edition

Post by ReNoM » August 9th, 2018, 1:48 pm

So, the start date of the tournament has been changed to 25th-26th August.

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Re: Wesnoth Life Open Cup for Teams - The 2018 edition

Post by enclave » August 9th, 2018, 3:01 pm

still nothing said about which maps are going to be played... :) I seen some training on Isar map :) will it be included in tournament?:)

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Re: Wesnoth Life Open Cup for Teams - The 2018 edition

Post by amir » August 9th, 2018, 11:00 pm

Krogen wrote:
August 9th, 2018, 8:53 am
I don't think i can participate on this one, but if you really want this tournament to have a chance, you should reconsider the same-country teams rule. It's hard enough to find another player who is willing to sign up, it's almost impossible to find one who is from the same country too. Activity of the MP community is worse than ever, if a tournament is going to be successful now, it can't limit itself with rules like this.
Just an opinion.
I second that. I've never met another player from austria (and that's where i'm from).

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Re: Wesnoth Life Open Cup for Teams - The 2018 edition

Post by ReNoM » August 10th, 2018, 5:33 am

enclave wrote:
August 9th, 2018, 3:01 pm
still nothing said about which maps are going to be played... :) I seen some training on Isar map :) will it be included in tournament?:)
I'm going to post the map list at this weekend. Please be patient :-). Spoiler: there isn't Isar in the list.
amir wrote:
August 9th, 2018, 11:00 pm
Krogen wrote:
August 9th, 2018, 8:53 am
I don't think i can participate on this one, but if you really want this tournament to have a chance, you should reconsider the same-country teams rule. It's hard enough to find another player who is willing to sign up, it's almost impossible to find one who is from the same country too. Activity of the MP community is worse than ever, if a tournament is going to be successful now, it can't limit itself with rules like this.
Just an opinion.
I second that. I've never met another player from austria (and that's where i'm from).
You can try to search for a teammate on the Ladder site. There are a lot of players from Austria. Most of them haven't been active for a time, but somebody has. For example - L2P_noob (the latest game was in 2018), Admiral_SAP (the latest game was in 2017). Anyway, you can try to email players (emails of most of the players are in open access, check the Ladder profiles of the Austrian players).

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Re: Wesnoth Life Open Cup for Teams - The 2018 edition

Post by enclave » August 10th, 2018, 3:00 pm

amir wrote:
August 9th, 2018, 11:00 pm
I second that. I've never met another player from austria (and that's where i'm from).
I'ts more or less true, it's extremely hard to find same country in a tiny wesnoth community :D but I think SpieIer is from Austria :) so you may have a teammate :D just write uppercase "i" instead of lowercase "L" - Spie(i)er (SpieIer)

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