Wesnoth sheet music
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Your changes to 76-95 are great, it sounds a lot closer! Thanks for the help
What I had written before literally hurt my ears to listen to...
I still haven't gotten around to taking another look at 57-76, but I went through that whole chord section again and I tried making some changes to your edit. I am not sure about these though, maybe I have just made it worse
Changes (to Samonella's edit posted above):![Pensive :hmm:](./images/smilies/icon_pensive.gif)
Edit: okay, that clearly wasn't right. Hopefully the versions posted below are more accurate...
![Smile :)](./images/smilies/icon_smile.gif)
I still haven't gotten around to taking another look at 57-76, but I went through that whole chord section again and I tried making some changes to your edit. I am not sure about these though, maybe I have just made it worse
![Whistle :whistle:](./images/smilies/icon_whistle.gif)
Changes (to Samonella's edit posted above):
- 77-78 and 81-82: moved the F# down an octave, it sounds to me more like a perfect 4th than a perfect 5th
- Top line of 78: it sounds to me like the B comes in right on beat 3, and beat 2 is just a rest?
- 79: It sounds like there is a perfect 5th in the bottom notes? I also maybe hear B C B being played by another instrument? Or maybe, I have started to imagine things after listening to this section 3984783 times...
- 82: That C on beat 3 sounded pretty fishy (I know, I am the culprit of that one), I tried replacing it with a B-F# chord?
- 83: It sounds to me like the chords on beat 1 are the same as the chord on beat 3 of 82? The other chords seemed fishy too, I tried changing the Es to F#s, I think that sounds better?
- 85, last chord: It sounds to me like there is still F# here, not E
- 87-88: I think the Gs (I know, I am also the culprit behind these) should actually be F#s
- 90, beat 2: I think the top note is still A? And maybe the middle note on beat 3 is F# instead of E
- 91: I think the bottom notes are B all the way through? And maybe the middle notes are F#, the G doesn't sound right (guess who put that in too...)
- 92: maybe the bottom chord is F#-B, I think this is the same chord that's in the later measures too
![Pensive :hmm:](./images/smilies/icon_pensive.gif)
That's a great idea- I'll do that soon!Samonella wrote:On a different note (no pun intended) I think it would be helpful if you gathered up all the more-or-less finished scores and updated the original post with them. Currently it would be a bit of a chore for users to search through and figure out which versions are finished and which aren't.
Edit: okay, that clearly wasn't right. Hopefully the versions posted below are more accurate...
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Re: Wesnoth sheet music
Hmm, maybe I just listened to my version too many times and erroneously convinced myself that it's mostly right, but I disagree with most of your edits. Here's the break down:
So there's that. But if you still think I'm wrong about some of those points, I probably am; you've already proven to have a better ear than I.
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At least we're progressing... I think
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Here's an update on Traveling Minstrels. First, i made all the edits Inky suggested clear back here, they all sounded good. I also started working on the left hand for the next section, but it's not going well. The only interesting change is that I tried combining my version of 67-82 with Inky/skeptical_troll's. It didn't take much finagling to make them fit together, and I think it sounds pretty good?
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The first post is now updated with links to all the pieces in this thread!
Traveling Minstrels: Cool! I'll take a look at it soon!
Wanderer "creativity": aghhh you are right, I've been hallucinating things that aren't there from listening to that section way too much.
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This time I tried listening to the passage an octave up (used the actual piece, it's difficult to hear much in the mp3 you posted), it is much easier to hear the middle voices that way I think. WARNING: If you do this, that high G at measure 81 will be really, really painful!
I basically hear two voices besides the oboe and the bass notes:
The attached XML shows how they sound together. Am I hallucinating again??? ![Pensive :hmm:](./images/smilies/icon_pensive.gif)
EDIT: removed attachment, see later posts for final version
Traveling Minstrels: Cool! I'll take a look at it soon!
Wanderer "creativity": aghhh you are right, I've been hallucinating things that aren't there from listening to that section way too much.
![Augh :augh:](./images/smilies/icon_augh.gif)
Hm, I still don't hear this (maybe I have gone deaf from listening to this passage repeatedly at high volumes), but I'm sure you're right (either way, it's not that important).Samonella wrote: I definitely hear the oboe or whatever stoop down most of an octave
You're right! I didn't hear them at all at first, but I hear them now.Samonella wrote:The only thing I disagree about here is that you removed the high D&B from beats 1&2 respectively of bar 92, and I definitely still hear them.
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This time I tried listening to the passage an octave up (used the actual piece, it's difficult to hear much in the mp3 you posted), it is much easier to hear the middle voices that way I think. WARNING: If you do this, that high G at measure 81 will be really, really painful!
I basically hear two voices besides the oboe and the bass notes:
Spoiler:
![Pensive :hmm:](./images/smilies/icon_pensive.gif)
EDIT: removed attachment, see later posts for final version
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Looks good!Inky wrote:The first post is now updated with links to all the pieces in this thread!
![Cool 8)](./images/smilies/icon_cool.gif)
Oh dear, just when I thought we were wrapping up.Inky wrote:a bunch of other stuff
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I went through Samonella's update on Traveling Minstrels and tried to fill in the quarter note accompaniment in the second half. The quarter notes in Samonella's version didn't sound right to me so I rewrote those parts, hopefully it is closer? Some of it still seems fishy though...
For hearing the accompaniment it is very helpful to shift the pitch of the piece up an octave, the lower notes are much clearer that way. (And use a low pass filter if you don't want to go deaf)
I think the last part (after measure 117 when the top line has dotted half notes) should have some chords in the top line to make it more epic; it should be easy to fill in the notes once we're sure about the lower part.
And for the section after the beginning (measure 33), it feels to me like it would make more sense if the melody was on top, with accompanying chords underneath?![Pensive :hmm:](./images/smilies/icon_pensive.gif)
EDIT: removed attachment, final version is here: viewtopic.php?f=14&t=44192&start=75#p615568
For hearing the accompaniment it is very helpful to shift the pitch of the piece up an octave, the lower notes are much clearer that way. (And use a low pass filter if you don't want to go deaf)
I think the last part (after measure 117 when the top line has dotted half notes) should have some chords in the top line to make it more epic; it should be easy to fill in the notes once we're sure about the lower part.
And for the section after the beginning (measure 33), it feels to me like it would make more sense if the melody was on top, with accompanying chords underneath?
![Pensive :hmm:](./images/smilies/icon_pensive.gif)
EDIT: removed attachment, final version is here: viewtopic.php?f=14&t=44192&start=75#p615568
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I've been working for a while on improving the Battle transcription, since I just love this piece so much!!
(I've been attempting to learn to play it and it's so much fun!! I'd love to try to make a cover sometime by recording the various parts and putting them together, but it is going to take a while since the piece is so long and a couple of the passages are extremely difficult... p.s. It's probably not going to happen anytime soon, but anyone's welcome to join in the cover by playing any part of the piece, even if it's just a few measures
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I added notes to a lot of places, most notably the middle section which was missing the inner voice. Some of the additions are rather questionable, but I think at least the middle section sounds a lot more epic now!
As always any suggestions for changes/pointing out especially suspicious places is welcome! And if anyone out there is actually using these, I would welcome any suggestions on how to notate things better, improve readability, modify parts that aren't playable, etc.
(I've been attempting to learn to play it and it's so much fun!! I'd love to try to make a cover sometime by recording the various parts and putting them together, but it is going to take a while since the piece is so long and a couple of the passages are extremely difficult... p.s. It's probably not going to happen anytime soon, but anyone's welcome to join in the cover by playing any part of the piece, even if it's just a few measures
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I added notes to a lot of places, most notably the middle section which was missing the inner voice. Some of the additions are rather questionable, but I think at least the middle section sounds a lot more epic now!
List of changes
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About Still Another Wanderer
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About Battle
but it's fine either way.
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Might this help?
You're going to have to figure out exactly what instrument plays what from the track names, but I guess this is better than flying blind.
You're going to have to figure out exactly what instrument plays what from the track names, but I guess this is better than flying blind.
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West wrote:Might this help?
You're going to have to figure out exactly what instrument plays what from the track names, but I guess this is better than flying blind.
![Shocked :shock:](./images/smilies/icon_eek.gif)
*unintelligible stuttering*
Yes, that does help. Tremendously. IDK if everyone already knows this, but MID files open right up with Musescore, so we can literally just sort through it and choose which parts we want. It's not even full of dotted sixteenths tied over bar lines or things like I was expecting, it's already human readable (besides that there are so many tracks). Thanks a ton!
EDIT: Here is trimmed down version; I only took out a few irrelevant parts, such as drones that carry through dozens of measures at a time and the percussion, and (more importantly) compacted everything else into just 8 tracks.
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WHOA!!!!
The first thing I did was look up the notes to that passage
(I didn't imagine the B G# E there after all!)
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Replies to Samonella's post:
Traveling Minstrels: I agree with both of your points, it would get repetitive to have the quarter note stuff all the time.
Wanderer: Awesome, it is actually kind of sounding like the actual piece now!!!
Maybe try listening to this mp3? On the downbeat of 83 it really sounded to me like the voice on the right moved down from A to G, while the voice on the left stayed on A, but I seem to have a very active imagination when it comes to hearing notes
Either way, as you said the G and A in the same chord sounds pretty fishy so it's probably better to leave out the G.
Battle: Really? The 2nd beat of 124 sounds very clearly like a high G to me and I can't hear any D
The cover isn't going to happen anytime soon - I've been working on it a little bit every day and I've learned some of it, but it's going to take at least a few more weeks to learn all the notes (I wrote it in 3 different parts and it's 8 pages total
) But it is going to happen eventually!
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YESSSS it helps a ton!! Thanks a lot, West!!West wrote:Might this help?
The first thing I did was look up the notes to that passage
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Replies to Samonella's post:
Traveling Minstrels: I agree with both of your points, it would get repetitive to have the quarter note stuff all the time.
Wanderer: Awesome, it is actually kind of sounding like the actual piece now!!!
Hmm, I thought at least the middle line in the first few measures was quite clear.Samonella wrote:Bumping it up an octave didn't really help for me
Maybe try listening to this mp3? On the downbeat of 83 it really sounded to me like the voice on the right moved down from A to G, while the voice on the left stayed on A, but I seem to have a very active imagination when it comes to hearing notes
![Whistle :whistle:](./images/smilies/icon_whistle.gif)
Battle: Really? The 2nd beat of 124 sounds very clearly like a high G to me and I can't hear any D
![Pensive :hmm:](./images/smilies/icon_pensive.gif)
The cover isn't going to happen anytime soon - I've been working on it a little bit every day and I've learned some of it, but it's going to take at least a few more weeks to learn all the notes (I wrote it in 3 different parts and it's 8 pages total
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Great, glad to hear it was useful! Let me know if there are any other of my tracks I can help shed some light on.
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Here's Journey's End as well if anyone needs it. I'm going through a lot of old project files here and some of them will not load (due to missing samples and plugins) but I 'd be happy to post midi files for the ones that will.
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Awesome! Thanks, keep 'em coming! I started organizing Journey's End, but I don't have anything presentable yet.West wrote:Here's Journey's End as well if anyone needs it. I'm going through a lot of old project files here and some of them will not load (due to missing samples and plugins) but I 'd be happy to post midi files for the ones that will.
What I do have is a finished (hopefully, but you never can tell in this thread) piano score of Traveling Minstrels!
EDIT: Oh by the way, Inky how did you change the octave in our least favorite section of wanderer? It sounded much better than when I used audacity->effects->change pitch.
At any rate, it sounds like we're calling it quits with that piece, so I made one little edit in a different section (added an octave E to 57) and attached a pdf version.
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This is great! I love Journey's End!! Thanks again West, this is so nice of you!West wrote:Here's Journey's End as well if anyone needs it.
Wanderer
Traveling minstrels
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edit: argh forgot about measure 57! just a sec... edit2: oops, there were still a few weird ties at 76-92 - fixed.
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