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any one got a good intermediate level undead umc campaign

Post by amanII » October 18th, 2016, 12:12 am

i just beat the eastern invasion and attempted descent into darkness next.However i tried the first few scenarios and hated them.anyone got a good undead campaign to take on instead(preferably for 1.12).

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Post by The_Gnat » October 18th, 2016, 1:00 am

Hi amanII, I've had a look at the addon database and 'Only Death Behind', and 'Danse Macabre' seem like good undead campaigns, though i haven't played either yet. You also could try invasion from the unknown but that isn't really an undead campaign.

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Post by Velensk » October 18th, 2016, 1:49 am

Secrets of the Ancients has very good gameplay. I'm not sure you'd call it intermediate level though.
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Post by Lord-Knightmare » October 18th, 2016, 10:26 am

Undead UMC campaigns? Here's the list and a brief description for each:
  1. Invasion from the Unknown
    You start with elves but can recruit undead from the third scenario onwards and the undead are the units that are most useful in the campaign. Epic Story and one of the best Wesnoth's UMC library has to offer.
  2. After the Storm
    Best UMC add-on in existence (that's what I think of it). Do I need to say more?
  3. Danse Macabre
    Undead campaign. You are a zombie and you want revenge on the lich that turned you into one. Expert Level
  4. Only Death Behind
    Never played it, but it has gotten positive reviews so give it a whirl.
  5. Secrets of the Ancients
    I recommend this one. Centres around a mage as she unravels all the secrets of Necromancy. The ending scenario is a bit tough though.
  6. Legend of the Invincibles
    Really....I mean Really long campaign. Holds the record for longest campaign ever. Scenario objects are not diverse though and gets nightmarishly difficult on reaching chapter 7.
  7. Undead Empire
    Never tried it. Description says it's a Single player version of the ANL multiplayer scenario.
  8. Northern Rebirth Remake
    Starts from the first three scenarios and then moves to the undead branch of the mainline campaign.
  9. Girl unDead
    Never tried it. Upstart necromancer tries to take over kingdom #ExplainAPlotVeryBadly
  10. Aldur the Great
    Never tried it. Maybe an undead campaign
  11. Ghostly Calls
    Undead campaign. Medium length.
And, these are all the ones I could find from the 1.12 add-on server.

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Post by ForestDragon » October 18th, 2016, 11:58 am

Lord-Knightmare wrote:Undead UMC campaigns? Here's the list and a brief description for each:
  1. Girl unDead
    Never tried it. Upstart necromancer tries to take over kingdom #ExplainAPlotVeryBadly
correction: it's about a girl who is killed by spiders/swamp monsters, becomes a zombie, and has to flee from her home. i won't spoil the rest
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Re: any one got a good intermediate level undead umc campaig

Post by amanII » October 19th, 2016, 10:33 pm

okay maybe i should've mentioned why i didn't like descent into darkness before.it was bull**** to have to wait until the 4th scenario to get skeletons and even worse to have to wait until the 5th scenario to get dark adepts :evil: .legend of wesmere does this to an extent but it is WAY worse in descent into darkness.

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Post by Lord-Knightmare » October 20th, 2016, 3:51 pm

okay maybe i should've mentioned why i didn't like descent into darkness before.it was bull**** to have to wait until the 4th scenario to get skeletons and even worse to have to wait until the 5th scenario to get dark adepts :evil: .legend of wesmere does this to an extent but it is WAY worse in descent into darkness.
I do not mean to sound offensive, but the key aspect of the campaign DiD is to put you into the shoes of a person who has just begun to unravel the secrets of necromancy. So, you start with the simplest ones and move on to more advanced units (well, lvl 1's since giving you lvl 2 recruits is a bit of an overkill). Hence, your impatient play-style is not satisfied by DiD. Unfortunately for you, most of the campaigns (SotA gives you skeletons early in game as far as I recall) in my aforementioned list are all like DiD. You start with level zeros or just one or two lvl 1's... :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Post by Sudipta » October 20th, 2016, 4:22 pm

Lord-Knightmare's right , u know.... I feel you are missing the point of these campaigns. Like he said, in most of the undead UMC campaigns u start with very weak recruits and as your necromancy powers grow , your recruit list expands..This is because in most of these campaigns, the first part of the story is basically about why the MC chooses the dark side (pun intended) and then his or her journey to master necromancy.
But if are patient enough to blitz through these first few scenarios(which are usually very simple and easy) u will soon be able to recruit the stronger units like skeletons/ghosts and the storyline and gameplay will become much more interesting. I have played most of the campaigns mentioned in the list and i would recommend SotA because its my favourite undead campaign and Danse Macabre because u get to use level 4 and level 5 ultra powerful zombies... IfTU and AtS are not something u should play now. Its better to finish UtBS and most of the other mainline campagins before u try out Shadowm's masterpieces because they are VERY difficult!!
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Re: any one got a good intermediate level undead umc campaig

Post by amanII » October 23rd, 2016, 6:15 pm

Lord-Knightmare wrote:
okay maybe i should've mentioned why i didn't like descent into darkness before.it was bull**** to have to wait until the 4th scenario to get skeletons and even worse to have to wait until the 5th scenario to get dark adepts :evil: .legend of wesmere does this to an extent but it is WAY worse in descent into darkness.
I do not mean to sound offensive, but the key aspect of the campaign DiD is to put you into the shoes of a person who has just begun to unravel the secrets of necromancy. So, you start with the simplest ones and move on to more advanced units (well, lvl 1's since giving you lvl 2 recruits is a bit of an overkill). Hence, your impatient play-style is not satisfied by DiD. Unfortunately for you, most of the campaigns (SotA gives you skeletons early in game as far as I recall) in my aforementioned list are all like DiD. You start with level zeros or just one or two lvl 1's... :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
okay i get that it has significance in the plot of did but it hurts the gameplay by a lot. you see playing undead without skeletons and dark adepts is like playing chess without rooks or bishops or like playing loyalists without spearmen/heavy infantrymen.

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Post by The_Gnat » October 23rd, 2016, 7:08 pm

amanII wrote:okay i get that it has significance in the plot of did but it hurts the gameplay by a lot. you see playing undead without skeletons and dark adepts is like playing chess without rooks or bishops or like playing loyalists without spearmen/heavy infantrymen.
Well if you Really REALLY want to play with skeletons and adepts right away you could always (pretty easily) modify your recruitment list.

> Just find the addon you have downloaded in my games/wesnoth/data/addons/(ADDON) and then open it
> go to scenarios
> open scenario 1
> search the file for the word recruit= (make sure your modifying side=1)
> add at the end of the recruit list ,skeleton,dark adept,skeleton archer
> save the file !

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Re: any one got a good intermediate level undead umc campaig

Post by Lord-Knightmare » October 24th, 2016, 8:53 am

you see playing undead without skeletons and dark adepts is like playing chess without rooks or bishops or like playing loyalists without spearmen/heavy infantrymen.
They don't play undead....problem solved. :P
Well if you Really REALLY want to play with skeletons and adepts right away you could always (pretty easily) modify your recruitment list.

> Just find the addon you have downloaded in my games/wesnoth/data/addons/(ADDON) and then open it
> go to scenarios
> open scenario 1
> search the file for the word recruit= (make sure your modifying side=1)
> add at the end of the recruit list ,skeleton,dark adept,skeleton archer
> save the file !
Yeah, Amanil can do that. All he needs is to modify the recruit list of the first scenario and add all the undead lvl 1 recruits. He can also add "ENABLE_ANCIENT_LICH" in the extra defines.

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