Legend of the Invincibles

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Which of these units you find worth advancing and gearing heavily? Unpopular ones will be reworked.

Prophet
52
21%
Reaper
29
12%
Scythemaster
20
8%
Shadowalker
18
7%
Shadow Prince
19
8%
Siege Troll
11
5%
Sky Goblin
4
2%
Snow Hunter
20
8%
Soul Shooter
5
2%
Swordmaster
28
11%
Troll Boulderlobber
2
1%
Warlock
24
10%
Werewolf Rider
5
2%
Zombie Rider
7
3%
 
Total votes: 244

IljaNastase
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Re: Legend of the Invincibles

Post by IljaNastase »

Hello,

I am just starting with campaing, chapter one and episode 6.

Could you please answer the following questions:
At the beginning you get an alliance with the elves - and you are able to play and to call (or buy, at the beginning of a episode :) ) them.

Can I summone them for the whole campaign? Of course if they do not dy. :)

Reason why I am asking:
Nearly all kills have been made by elves ... and if they are gone in a couple of episode anyway ... I would very very much regret all the good EP (for killing) and have killed as much as possible with my own soldats.


Thank you very much in advance!
Delicius169
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Re: Legend of the Invincibles

Post by Delicius169 »

Dont worry, you can use them as much as you want, you will keep them until the end.
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Re: Legend of the Invincibles

Post by Conrad00 »

Would making an add on that decreases font size fix the iphone soul eater bug?
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Re: Legend of the Invincibles

Post by wesnoth_20160531 »

First some preliminaries: I installed Wesnoth 1.13.4 on a MacBook Pro running OSX. sw_vers reports:

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$ sw_vers
ProductName:	Mac OS X
ProductVersion:	10.9.5
BuildVersion:	13F1077
I installed the Legend of the Invincibles (3.1.21c) addon and tried playing the first campaign.
I noticed many lua/wml errors. Some indicated that "advance" was now "advancement"
so I fiddled around a bit and got things to work. Looking back at my bash history I believe
running the following from
~/Library/Application Support/Wesnoth_1.13/data/add-ons/Legend_of_the_Invincibles/
will fix most of them.

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for i in `grep -lr 'advance\]' .`; do    sed -i -e 's/advance\]/advancement\]/g' $i; done
for i in `grep -rl modifications.advance . `; do sed -i -e 's/modifications.advance/modifications.advancement/g' $i; done
Unfortunately now I'm often seeing a problem that's harder to fix. Often after a character
picks up an item (Take) I'll get a stack backtrace, something will cause the unit to vanish and
if it's one of the main characters the scenario will end.

This is easily reproducable in the second scenario which starts out with just Lethalia
by giving yourself some gems and crafting an item.

First I create a lua file caled cheat.lua in ~/Library/Application Support/Wesnoth_1.13/data
with the following contents

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function set(a,b)
  wesnoth.set_variable(a,b)
end
function gems(n)
    set('obsidians', n)
    set('topazes', n)
    set('opals', n)
    set('pearls', n)
    set('diamonds', n)
    set('rubies', n)
    set('emeralds', n)
    set('amethysts', n)
    set('sapphires', n)
    set('black_pearls', n)
end
gems(40)
Then I start with the debug option enabled:

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bash-3.2$ /Applications/Wesnoth.app/Contents/MacOS/Wesnoth --log-debug scripting/lua
.. lots of output ..
Then I run the following command after enabling debug mode:

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lua wesnoth.dofile "~cheat.lua"
Now use the menu sequence:

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* Items
* Crafting
* Craft a weapon
* Soul Renderer  (second to last)
* Yes
* Axe (or battle axe, pickaxe, ...)
* Take It
You'll see a lua stacktrace, Lethalia will vanish and you'll get the "Defeat" dialog.
Back in the window where you started wesnoth you'll see something like the following
with more details.

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20160531 20:05:18 warning unit: Unknown attribute 'animate' discarded.
20160531 20:05:18 error engine: Cannot do [set_variables] with invalid to_variable variable: advanced.modifications.object[0].specials.damage[] with mode = replace
name = $variable_name
to_variable = $variable_to_variable

20160531 20:05:18 error config: Error: attempting to delete non-existing child: damage[0]
20160531 20:05:18 error scripting/lua: Mandatory WML child missing yet untested for. Please report.
stack traceback:
	[C]: in function 'cmd'
	lua/wml-utils.lua:137: in function 'handle_event_commands'
	lua/wml-tags.lua:278: in function 'cmd'
	lua/wml-utils.lua:137: in function 'handle_event_commands'
	lua/wml-tags.lua:278: in function 'cmd'
	lua/wml-utils.lua:137: in function 'handle_event_commands'
	lua/wml-tags.lua:383: in function 'cmd'
	lua/wml-utils.lua:137: in function 'handle_event_commands'
	lua/wml-tags.lua:264: in function <lua/wml-tags.lua:263>
	[C]: in function 'fire_event'
	...
	lua/wml-tags.lua:278: in function 'cmd'
	lua/wml-utils.lua:137: in function 'handle_event_commands'
	lua/wml-tags.lua:383: in function 'cmd'
	lua/wml-utils.lua:137: in function 'handle_event_commands'
	lua/wml-tags.lua:264: in function <lua/wml-tags.lua:263>
	[C]: in function 'fire_event'
	lua/wml-tags.lua:138: in function 'cmd'
	lua/wml-utils.lua:137: in function 'handle_event_commands'
	lua/wml-tags.lua:278: in function 'cmd'
	lua/wml-utils.lua:137: in function 'handle_event_commands'
	lua/wml-tags.lua:264: in function <lua/wml-tags.lua:263>
I think the problem has to do with one of the [set_variables] blocks in utils/stats.cfg like the following one

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    {VARIABLE variable_name "attack_$count2|.specials.$count|[$index]"}
    {VARIABLE variable_to_variable "advanced.modifications.object[$i].specials.$count|[$k]"}
    [set_variables]
        name=$variable_name
        mode=replace
        to_variable=$variable_to_variable
    [/set_variables]
but I don't know enough to be sure.
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Re: Legend of the Invincibles

Post by Dugi »

You've done a very nice research.

I am aware of the [advancement] → [advance] issue and the possible fix, but the problem is that it would break compatibility with 1.12 and I don't quite know what to do. I might write something that would find all occurrences of [advancement], wrap it in a version check and add the [advance] for the case the version check isn't met.

For the second issue:

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20160531 20:05:18 error scripting/lua: Mandatory WML child missing yet untested for. Please report.
This means that there is an error the WML engine. The construct that causes it is used a lot and there's no reason why it should be unusable, WML isn't very good at checking for presence of variables and simply not checking anything is often the best way. Will you report it on GNA or should I do it?
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Re: Legend of the Invincibles

Post by wesnoth_20160531 »

Happy to help. I'm not familiar with GNA but a search turned up
this link http://gna.org/bugs/?20852 which looks related so
so I'll post the details there.

EDIT: reported as https://gna.org/bugs/index.php?24719
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Re: Legend of the Invincibles

Post by Dugi »

No, submit a new bug. Mandatory WML child missing yet untested for is a very generic class of errors, they all mean that somewhere it was assumed that WML has a variable somewhere, but it does not and the C++ code is not prepared to handle that. Errors like this are added and removed quite often.
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Re: Legend of the Invincibles

Post by wesnoth_20160531 »

I submitted https://gna.org/bugs/index.php?24719
Is that one ok or should I revise it?
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Re: Legend of the Invincibles

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20160531 20:05:18 warning unit: Unknown attribute 'animate' discarded. ← that's unrelated to the issue
Otherwise it's okay.
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Re: Legend of the Invincibles

Post by wesnoth_20160531 »

I agree - that's probably unrelated. But I can't seem to edit comments on GNA so :-P
Running with --log-debug from a shell causes you to see a lot of similar messages.

If there's any other output I can capture or anything else I can do to help let me know.

Thank you for a great add-on. This is my favorite Wesnoth campaign!
I played an earlier version all the way to the end (?) and was excited
to see it appear on the the add-ons menu in 1.13 this holiday weekend.
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Re: Legend of the Invincibles

Post by Dugi »

I hope they'll know that it's unrelated. It's not really an error, it's rather a side effect of a tricks LotI uses to set up some animations comfortably. I think you've provided enough information.

The 1.13 version is quite experimental, the changes done on 1.13 are disturbingly hard to adjust to. On the other hand, 1.13.5 will contain (and the more recent 1.13.4+ do contain) my new name generator that can be used to generate much cooler names than the old one.

I am glad you like it.
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Re: Legend of the Invincibles

Post by wesnoth_20160531 »

I thought of a way to narrow down where in the WML the problem was: there aren't very many places
where [set_variables] is used in utils/stats.cfg with to_variable = $variable_to_variable so I changed
the code in each place adding a number to the end of the "variable_to_variable" and retried.

Now my altered code produced the exception:

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20160601 07:27:36 error engine: Cannot do [set_variables] with invalid to_variable variable: advanced.modifications.object[0].specials.damage[] with mode = replace
name = $variable_name
to_variable = $variable_to_variable1

20160601 07:27:36 error config: Error: attempting to delete non-existing child: damage[0]
20160601 07:27:36 error scripting/lua: Mandatory WML child missing yet untested for. Please report.
which shows the culprit is indeed this part around line 849:

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{VARIABLE variable_to_variable1 "advanced.modifications.object[$i].specials.$count|[$j]"}
[set_variables]
    name=$variable_name
    mode=replace
    to_variable=$variable_to_variable1
[/set_variables]
Unfortunately Daniel took a look at https://gna.org/bugs/index.php?24719 and couldn't repro
because his version crashes before it gets to this point but from what he explained
This means the addon uses in invalid variable syntax, specials.damage[] is invalid syntax, to access the filrst element, use 'specials.damage[0]', to access the whole array use 'specials.damage'
I wonder if the problem might be that $j is a blank "" when $count is the string "damage" ? But the output does say

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Error: attempting to delete non-existing child: damage[0]
so I suspect the error message about the invalid to_variable is a little misleading and $j is actually 0 when this happens.
Will think about this more later.
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Re: Legend of the Invincibles

Post by Dugi »

It worked on 1.10 and 1.12, I made no changes to that because I barely understand that part of code at the moment. Your experiments seem to further show that it fails to copy one variable elsewhere because there is no variable in the target location is missing - which is quite an illogical error. 1.13 seems to contain some deep changes in the internal WML engine and they were not tested properly.

I have commented about the error that prevents the campaign to load, how to fix it and why is it still there.
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Re: Legend of the Invincibles

Post by ZIM »

Sorry for the late report,
For the ally drop item case, unfortunately the save file has erased. But it did happened in front of my own eyes. When I played it some time ago, maybe the middle of 2015 (I start over playing this month to balance my unit building because the newly introduced AoE penalty), it also happened.

Also, I want to report bug, when I unequip my Duke items from the "show items on units on recall list" and I choose unequip all items, the items still gives effect despite the item has been removed. Here is the save file.

And, I think scenario Into Our Frozen Land is too easy, maybe increase the enemies gold to 125 or more for each?
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Check the Duke's inventory and you'll notice it's empty, but his sword is Thornsword and his crossbow is still Chu-Ko-Nu.
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Re: Legend of the Invincibles

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ZIM wrote:But it did happened in front of my own eyes.
I am not asking for evidence. If I see it, I can learn a lot about the conditions and it makes finding it much easier.
ZIM wrote:Here is the save file.
I am aware of this bug, but fixing it is not trivial and I am thinking how to do it.
ZIM wrote:And, I think scenario Into Our Frozen Land is too easy, maybe increase the enemies gold to 125 or more for each?
Some changes to chapter 4 are being planned currently, one of the known issues is that the enemies are often too easy against Efraim.
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