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Fencer
I was reading unit descriptions for fun today, and when I came across the fencer description:
"Fencers belong to a school of thought that considers the armor most soldiers wear in combat to be their own worst enemy. While armor can only soften a blow, evading it leaves the defender completely unharmed. Being able to reliably dodge any offensive move is a luxury only afforded to the fit of body, and then only to those who endure rigorous training.
Outfitted with only a dagger and saber, fencers are light on their feet and useful in many situations where their armor-bound peers are at a disadvantage. They take relish in dancing circles around troops like heavy infantry, mocking the weight of their full armor."
I'm just curious, did the fencer originally have a ranged attack, like a dagger 7-1 pierce attack? It would seem to make sense considering the Duelist and Master-at-Arms. And NO, I am not suggesting we add a ranged attack; it would horribly throw the balance and pricing off track. I'm just curious, that's all
"Fencers belong to a school of thought that considers the armor most soldiers wear in combat to be their own worst enemy. While armor can only soften a blow, evading it leaves the defender completely unharmed. Being able to reliably dodge any offensive move is a luxury only afforded to the fit of body, and then only to those who endure rigorous training.
Outfitted with only a dagger and saber, fencers are light on their feet and useful in many situations where their armor-bound peers are at a disadvantage. They take relish in dancing circles around troops like heavy infantry, mocking the weight of their full armor."
I'm just curious, did the fencer originally have a ranged attack, like a dagger 7-1 pierce attack? It would seem to make sense considering the Duelist and Master-at-Arms. And NO, I am not suggesting we add a ranged attack; it would horribly throw the balance and pricing off track. I'm just curious, that's all
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Daggers were also used as sidearms. Really, no sword-wielding warrior would be without one.
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That's true, daggers are perfect for protecting hands, and no, there is no attack because it was supposed to be a deffense...
And dagger is piercing??What??
And dagger is piercing??What??
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Yep, the dagger is for defense:
http://www.kismeta.com/diGrasse/di_gras ... Dagger.htm
http://www.kismeta.com/diGrasse/di_gras ... Dagger.htm
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The Fencer's dagger is not a ranged attack, it's just a style thingy which he never actually uses as far as the game mechanics are concerned. He fights with a sabre, which is a bladed weapon.
The Duelist and Master-at-Arms get their ranged attacks from crossbows.
The Duelist and Master-at-Arms get their ranged attacks from crossbows.
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I always thought that the smaller saber was a dagger... you know, the one in his other hand.
Or maybe it's just a 2D game's way of showing depth, I'm not sure...
Or maybe it's just a 2D game's way of showing depth, I'm not sure...
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It is. A parrying dagger. Used for, shockingly enough, parrying, not throwing.
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Oh. What I meant it as is a thrown dagger (see the Bladesman from the Frost Elves in the Imperial era)
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http://zapicm.freeshell.org/1_02/Fencer.html
Back as far as 1.0, the fencer had only a melee attack.
Back as far as 1.0, the fencer had only a melee attack.
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I always thought of throwing daggers as in the realm of thieves and rogues, and so the lawful fencer would always be holding onto his.
My motto: "Never trust anything on 70% defense"
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Wait, what happens when the fencer levels up, does he now parries with his crossbow?
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This is hilarious, as HI make mincemeat out of Fencers.Unit_Descriptions wrote:"They take relish in dancing circles around troops like heavy infantry, mocking the weight of their full armor."
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Doesn't say fencers can kill HIs. It says they can dancer circles round them - that is to say, outmanoeuvre them. Which they can. 6 MP, skirmisher and a better movetype.
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It also says that they mock them, which, given appropriate label usage, they can also do
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Yep, 6 MP is just about enough to make a full circle around a HI, if terrain allows .thespaceinvader wrote:Doesn't say fencers can kill HIs. It says they can dancer circles round them - that is to say, outmanoeuvre them. Which they can. 6 MP, skirmisher and a better movetype.