Loyalist Portrait Series
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One thing about the Pikeman/Halberdier units is that their pierce resistance gets higher as they advance and the halberdier actually has a really high pierce resistance. I think this is reflected quite well by the bulky plated armor. Compare the Royal Guard who doesn't get any changes in resistances.Simons Mith wrote:I think that's the crux of my niggle though - if the rest of his armour is so massive, why is he wearing such a comparatively light helm? This guy is almost as well-covered as the Heavy Infantryman line. How does he compare side by side with the swordsman and the royal guard? I'm not really making an artistic criticism here; it's more of a possible consistency issue among these different units, I suppose.Captain Swing wrote: Also I think the helm is fine sizewise - maybe you could enlarge the visor is you must but I like the small head on larger body - it shows the mass of the plate armor.
[Edit in response to limabean's post below] OK, must just be me then. NVM.
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Remember that the royal guard has a shield : as such, he can afford slightly lighter armour than the halberdier's. Anyway I hope none of you seriously considers the latter a match for the Iron Mauler design when it comes to heaviness.
In the meantime, here's a preliminary for the javelineer.
In the meantime, here's a preliminary for the javelineer.
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Nice mustache.
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EDIT: At least it will make these guys way more popular.
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EDIT: At least it will make these guys way more popular.
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Now there's a portrait you won't see much of in game.
Can't give any constructive crit either, it just looks great.
Can't give any constructive crit either, it just looks great.
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...and rightly so. Everyone knows javelineers are 1337...Shadow Master wrote:At least it will make these guys way more popular.
I'm not entirely sure what's going on below his waist... there seems to be a bunch of angled lines. Maybe flats will fix it
Edited because I spail at felling.
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It looks great, but the arm with the horizontal spear looks odd. The drawing is fine, but why would he be holding it like that? It isn't like he's about to throw it, and I certainly wouldn't want to carry a spear around like that. The angles/proportions are fine though, so its your artistic choice
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The armour's mostly leather, presumably? The only minor issue I'd have is that the helm looks very heavy compare to the other two level 2s, where this is a lighter armoured unit, reflected by its lower health (it has the same resists as the pikeman, so similar armour to him would be appropriate, maybe), but it's very cool, too, so I can live with it...
Maybe making the heads of his thrwoing spears less big and bulky might be appropriate, too - the attack button images look like roman pilum type spears, with a long, thin head. But it's your call on that one =)
Great work =D
Maybe making the heads of his thrwoing spears less big and bulky might be appropriate, too - the attack button images look like roman pilum type spears, with a long, thin head. But it's your call on that one =)
Great work =D
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Well he is ready to throw it but, not in the direct pose to strike out . I like it. and i dont thing it have to be changed.CountPenguin wrote:It looks great, but the arm with the horizontal spear looks odd. The drawing is fine, but why would he be holding it like that? It isn't like he's about to throw it, and I certainly wouldn't want to carry a spear around like that. The angles/proportions are fine though, so its your artistic choice
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just some praise
i love the javelineer's design and discerning expression - and i really hope you'll find a solution for the halbedier's arms, he is really looking badass in every other regard!
i love the javelineer's design and discerning expression - and i really hope you'll find a solution for the halbedier's arms, he is really looking badass in every other regard!
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Gotta love the 'stache.
It really adds loads of character.
It really adds loads of character.
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Modified version of the halberdier, who should now be ready for shading.
- Larger left elbow/forearm limit
- Grip should be more coherent. Unless something better is proposed, I'll keep it as is.
The javelineer's armour is all leather indeed, except for the helm. As such I thought a reinforced neck would be OK, but I can try to lower the face cover, or simply switch it for a gorget. Anyway, he'll need a little more work before he's ready
- Larger left elbow/forearm limit
- Grip should be more coherent. Unless something better is proposed, I'll keep it as is.
The javelineer's armour is all leather indeed, except for the helm. As such I thought a reinforced neck would be OK, but I can try to lower the face cover, or simply switch it for a gorget. Anyway, he'll need a little more work before he's ready
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the halberdier's arms work much better now! the left one still looks a tad strange, but i think that's due to the elbow-thingie.
and actually i like the javelineer's heavy helmet, i think it's a nice contrast to the leather armour.
and actually i like the javelineer's heavy helmet, i think it's a nice contrast to the leather armour.
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The javelineer will keep his steel helmet, but with a lower neck guard, which ought to tone down the heaviness
In the meantime, here's the shaded halberdier. I tried a slightly different approach for the steel, with different colour tones. I hope he doesn't look too different from the other spearman line units.
In the meantime, here's the shaded halberdier. I tried a slightly different approach for the steel, with different colour tones. I hope he doesn't look too different from the other spearman line units.
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Looks great, but his helm feels a little flat to me, and the halberd head could possibly use a little more contrast. Aside from that, brilliant =)
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I like the different colors, and while I know that Wesnoth does like uniformity in the general idea of portraits following the same style, I am sure you can get away with having slightly different color metal.LordBob wrote:In the meantime, here's the shaded halberdier. I tried a slightly different approach for the steel, with different colour tones. I hope he doesn't look too different from the other spearman line units.
Armor came from smithies all over the land who drew their ore from various places, so there are bound to be different levels and qualities of the metal. Not to mention potential traces of other metals in the ore which might color it, or the tradition that soldiers had of applying a finish to their armor (often one color or done by heraldry) in order to prevent rust and abrasion.
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