Showing defense ratings on units.

Naeddyr · Post by **Naeddyr** » November 14th, 2006, 5:23 pm

I think it would be a great thing if there was a simple dial or symbol that showed a units defense rating on the terrain that unit is in: like a with a small number from 1-9, or a small unintrusive figured made out of 1-9 pips, etc.

Here is an example, where I drew a 4 (40%, I don't actually know what the actual defense rating is) in the side-bubble:

Lord_Aether · Post by **Lord_Aether** » November 14th, 2006, 7:58 pm

Could be cool. Mind you, when you have played wesnoth enough, you kinda memorize the values...

joshudson · Post by **joshudson** » November 14th, 2006, 9:57 pm

Zolpha? Defense rating goes from 0 to 98%

Naeddyr · Post by **Naeddyr** » November 14th, 2006, 10:06 pm

joshudson wrote:Zolpha? Defense rating goes from 0 to 98%

But are anything but 10% increments actually used? Not really. You might as well give defense ratings as 1-9 (my preference) rather than the inflated N*10 %.

Same for the damage resistances. >:o

Post by **Zhukov** » November 14th, 2006, 10:16 pm

If you want to know a unit's defence on it's current terrain, just select it and put the mouse over the terrain you wish to check. The defence value appears at the upper-right corner.
This works with your units, allied units and hostile units.

I really don't think having the defence shown on the actual unit is a good idea. That's cluttered enough as it is.

TheLost1 · Post by **TheLost1** » November 15th, 2006, 4:55 am

what about a little box that appears if you hover over a unit for long enough?

Post by **Ken_Oh** » November 15th, 2006, 5:15 am

I like this. You can, at a glance, see everything without all that mousing around.

The down side = more clutter.

JW · Post by JW » November 15th, 2006, 5:27 am

Am I blind? I can't see a "4"...

Post by **Zhukov** » November 15th, 2006, 5:57 am

You can't?

It's on top of the green orb, above the gobo's health bar.

Naeddyr · Post by **Naeddyr** » November 15th, 2006, 9:55 am

JW wrote:Am I blind? I can't see a "4"...

Yes, very subtle, isn't it.

Not at all distracting.

Unlike these dials:

JW · Post by JW » November 15th, 2006, 10:23 am

Zhukov wrote:You can't?

It's on top of the green orb, above the gobo's health bar.

I see a green diamond. I would never recognize that as a 4.

Post by **Boucman** » November 15th, 2006, 6:47 pm

the "dial" stuff might be doable... I'd even rate it as an easy coding task.

allyou have to do is read and understand unit::redraw() in unit.cpp and add the proper code.

Edit:
I'll probably add it as an easy coding task once our UI gurus agree if/how it should be done

however, I like the symbolic concept (star, color) better than the number concept

Post by **Maeglin Dubh** » November 15th, 2006, 7:13 pm

My vote is for the dial. I'm not quite clear on how the other one works, and it doesn't seem terribly intuitive.

Post by **SkeletonCrew** » November 15th, 2006, 7:39 pm

Maeglin Dubh wrote:My vote is for the dial

ditto

Naeddyr · Post by **Naeddyr** » November 15th, 2006, 7:59 pm

I'm gonna post here more dials as I get them one. For starters, one with 9 pips - the following ones will be variations with seven pips, etc. I'll also try to fit the crown in somehow, etc, and do different colours and so forth.