Plural of Wose
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Plural of Wose
What should the plural of wose be? I've used woses once or twice, but it just doesn't sound right.
wose? (like sheep)
woses? (like tree)
weese? (like goose)
wosen? (weird)
wose? (like sheep)
woses? (like tree)
weese? (like goose)
wosen? (weird)
Well, Wose is an actual word (search for it on Wikipedia; it gives you a Tolkien-related article, but Tolkien actually stole the name from European folklore), and the plural is Woses. So I would use that.
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No no no, the plural of "wose" is "wooses". Hence the common misconception of calling a single one a "woose"...
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Well, just everyone who was around when the Woses were added.Zhukov wrote:So Tolkien's Woses were the little wild men? And ours are basically the same as Tolkien's Ents. How curious.
Anyone know why our Woses got that name?
The basic reasoning was:
1. These are ent-like creatures basically copied from Tolkien.
2. But, they're NOT the exact same, so we shouldn't call them ents. And that would be copyright infringement anyway.
3. Hm... what about woses? It means "wild-man-of-the-woods". Tree-man, wild-man, same thing - or at least close enough.
(PS: The name of Wose fits, IMHO; but I don't think Woses really have a place in Wesnoth, and they never really did; especially not one that would lead to them being allied with the Rebels. So I've always been opposed to Woses in Wesnoth.)
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Ent isnt copyrighted. It wasnt invented by Tolkien as far as i know. Even if i am wrong, name is already used in many things, like TCGs or RPGs.
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Re: Wosi?
I think you misspelled "sillier".schnauzerhead wrote:I would have to go with wosi... sounds cooler.
I actually had another adjective in mind, but I decided to be polite.
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Re: Plural of Wose
Boring technical answer:joshudson wrote:What should the plural of wose be? I've used woses once or twice, but it just doesn't sound right.
The Anglo-Saxon weak masculine noun "wasa" (plural "wasan"), which is a rare and rather poetical word meaning "man", seems to be the source of Tolkien's word "wose". The change from long "a" to long "o" is regular - compare "stan" -> "stone", "da" -> "doe" and many others; and the "-a" of weak nouns is invariably lost.
So the plural could be formed by analogy with modern descendants of other weak nouns in "-a".
"bera, beran" -> "bear, bears"
but
"oxa, oxan" -> "ox, oxen"
So you could use either "woses" or "wosen" without upsetting linguists, but plurals with altered vowels or no change have a different origin. The singular of "weese" would be "woose", and unaltered plurals like "sheep" mostly originate with strong neuter nouns, not weak masculine ones.
I like "wosen" myself, because "woses" sounds like a lisping pronunciation of "roses". Also, I think Tolkien preferred "woses", and there's no harm in being different.
"Ent", by the way, was also an Anglo-Saxon noun, meaning "giant", so Tolkien didn't invent it.
Re: Plural of Wose
Wouldn't a lisping pronounciation of "roses" sound more like "rotheth" or "wotheth"?pjr wrote:"woses" sounds like a lisping pronunciation of "roses".
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Re: Hmmm..
I agree, though to some it may sound like an adjective.schnauzerhead wrote:So.... Wosen? that sounds good.......
I mean, hey, we uase magi for mages, why not wosen for woses
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this goes for they're/their/there as well
this goes for they're/their/there as well