Make Orc Grunt unit graphic smaller

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mxb2001
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Make Orc Grunt unit graphic smaller

Post by mxb2001 » February 22nd, 2019, 5:38 pm

It looks like a giant and is almost indistinguishable from the Warrior (which has 2 swords). If the grunt were smaller it would make sense.
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josteph
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Re: Make Orc Grunt unit graphic smaller

Post by josteph » March 30th, 2019, 5:40 pm

The easiest way to tell them apart is that Warriors have two swords.

Here are the Grunt, Warrior, Warlord, and Sovereign:
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edit: Sorry, missed that you already mentioned the two swords. Personally, I never had a problem distinguishing those two, but maybe that's just me.

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Edwylm
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Re: Make Orc Grunt unit graphic smaller

Post by Edwylm » March 30th, 2019, 10:37 pm

The grunt is already smaller than the warrior by 3 pixels. you can notice the change in the helmet and legs. from description "Orcish Grunts are the mainstay of the orcish forces, made up of the biggest and strongest orcs the clan can muster".

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Re: Make Orc Grunt unit graphic smaller

Post by The_Gnat » March 31st, 2019, 6:04 am

I think the problem is not with the lvl 1 but with the lvl 2 warrior. Compare the grunt to other level 1 units:

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I think it is about the correct size. Slightly larger but not too large.

If the lvl 2 warrior had a more unique helmet/stance/armor than that would be the best change. It has much less variation than other units such as the Elvish Fighter, Dwarivsh Fighter, Loyalist Spearman, etc.

However, with all that said, I don't really think it is a massive issue. :)

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josteph
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Re: Make Orc Grunt unit graphic smaller

Post by josteph » March 31st, 2019, 7:24 pm

How about making the ellipses different by level? If we made the ellipses, say, progressively thicker or brighter for higher-level units, then enabling ellipses could assist in distinguishing unit level, not just for orcs but also for Dwarves Thunderer/Thunderguard and Stalwart/Sentinel:
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I don't want to hijack the thread though, if it's a good idea let's split it to a new thread :)

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Re: Make Orc Grunt unit graphic smaller

Post by Edwylm » March 31st, 2019, 9:21 pm

That might work but not much help with sprite levels that look alike. like swordsman and pikeman or other user made content.

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