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josteph
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Query about troll sprites

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Hi,

I just wanted to point out that the unit types Great Troll and Troll Warrior have the same sprite. I didn't see this recorded on any "Missing/wanted art" list so I thought it might be helpful to post and point it out.

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(I asked on the users' forum first and was forwarded here.)
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Re: Query about troll sprites

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Do they really? At least the great troll in SotBE had slightly changed color, it was more brown.
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Hm it seems to rather be a campaign effect.

From toward mountains of haag

apply_to=image_mod
# This shifts the skin colors to be slightly more red
replace="PAL(D0CFBF,A8A8A8,747F73,616153,374336>D3BCC1,A8A8A8,817D71,635054,454133)"
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So, the great troll image needs to be changed accordingly for this to have the same effect outside of the campaign great troll, it shouldn't be too hard.
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Re: Query about troll sprites

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On the previous thread Lord-Knightmare suggested another option, to use an entirely different graphic: https://r.wesnoth.org/p619952
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Re: Query about troll sprites

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The Troll Warrior is actually six images because it's animated. Replacing the Great Troll with a single image would mean losing the animation. We would probably do that anyway if they sometimes appeared together (which they don't) or if the new sprite was a
significant improvement over the old one (which is debatable). I would vote against it because the sprite in the thread you linked would make a good level-4 troll, but it's too big and rich-looking to replace one of our current level 3s. If someone made a better, animated sprite, I would be for it, but in the meantime, color shifting seems like a good solution.
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Re: Query about troll sprites

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beetlenaut wrote:The Troll Warrior is actually six images because it's animated. Replacing the Great Troll with a single image would mean losing the animation. We would probably do that anyway if they sometimes appeared together (which they don't) or if the new sprite was a
significant improvement over the old one (which is debatable). I would vote against it because the sprite in the thread you linked would make a good level-4 troll, but it's too big and rich-looking to replace one of our current level 3s. If someone made a better, animated sprite, I would be for it, but in the meantime, color shifting seems like a good solution.
You have Gruu and Warrior in SotBE IIRC which is mainline too (I think there's an add-on instance too [from the ones I've played - I think it's a vision blinded] but it's not the same ofc).
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Re: Query about troll sprites

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Yes, "A Vision Blinded" has Great Troll and Troll Warrior in play at the same time. That's how I ran into this :)
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