Submerged trees

[BomSite]

Rivers are now mostly bordered by a coastline, with sand.
Here are submerged trees as an extra terrain type.
It gives more possibilities to make the rivers flow into a jungle.

If someone can judge if it is good, and can finish
[*]the edges witch has to been made? I hope some of the existing can be reused
[*]integrating in the code (is it water (slows units) or is it a tree (less slowing) )

[Sangel]

Intriguing idea. Partly-submerged trees are indeed common in river deltas and other tidal regions; it would be a useful (if sparse) new terrain type.

My one question would be about the water colour - wouldn't the water around submerged trees tend to be more swampish than clear? Perhaps you could use the base colour of our current swamps (marshes) instead?

[Boucman]

i'm not sure if I'll include these yet (if I do, they won't be a new terrain but a special overlay when overlaying trees over water tiles)

could you please post your semi-transparent trees without the water background ? they'll be easier for me to integrate..

[Zarel]

Screenshots would be nice. Makes it a lot easier for users to see what your art contribution looks like, and you get significantly more feedback.

[beetlenaut]

If they are an overlay, they can be used on swamp or coastal water. I've seen partially submerged palms in blue water in Mexico, so it can happen.

[boru]

They look great to me .. would fit in fine near an underwater village or around an island.

[BomSite]

Here are the same images without water

They are made in Photoshop, based on the existed images,
so I can give that ones also if you want them?

[fabi]

Keep in mind that coniferous forest doesn't grow in wet areas.
Even deciduous forest trees (with some exceptions) won't stand flooding of their roots very long.
So that terrain can picture only a short period of time (that doesn't repeat that often) or the trees
will make place for plants more adapted to wet underground.

So my proposal is to design a mangrove wood terrain that will fit in tropical environment.

[StandYourGround]

On the other hand, this terrain could still be useful for a flood scenario...

[Boucman]

I think we don't need a new "terrain" just a special casing for "tree overlays over water"

[Boucman]

ok, first atempt...

I got the code working, so no bad suprise on that side...


however, your water great trees seems to still have leaves under them, which looks odd on water

appart from that, it looks rather good, see screenshot attached

[BomSite]

however, your water great trees seems to still have leaves under them, which looks odd on water

Good to know, I thought the leaves falls normally on the ground, so I had let them fall on the water.

Couldn't test with the whole image, but it is indeed very odd.

Version without leaves attached


PS, thanks for your work
I couldn't have done that part

[Boucman]

new quick screenshot, waiting for other artists to comment...

[BomSite]

new quick screenshot

Hm, I like it, but now I see it, and have removed the leaves on the water, I think the roots are to visible?
there is never a bottom in the water, and the roots floats?

What do you think?

[em3]

This would look in shallow water, possibly. As I don|t think that it will be ised in deep water... I wouldn't be so worried about it.

Boucman: On a side note: could you make the preview screen-shots without the terrain code displayed? They are quite ugly and the discussion is about whether the new terrain looks good or not.