water animation

[Boucman]

Ok, we have problems integrating on macs, I need to debug that with the mac packager, so uncortunately I can't pack things for you...

Yoyobuae : it's not as simple as just droping a file, you'll need all the images (which are not the ones rhyging5 provided, I had to chop and rename some of them)

moreover we only have a couple of transitions at this point, and though they look fine the overall look is quite ugly...

[rhyging5]

Ok, we have problems integrating on macs, I need to debug that with the mac packager, so uncortunately I can't pack things for you...

ok,then this means i can't see the result?.....this is as working on the dark....at least, the first images are working well?

eventually, we'll have to talk about recoloring to be able to handle all types of water, but there is no emergency on that side

yes, it's true. But I propose for a other kinds of waves, the bood and the pestilence waves. But first, keep working on the current version. then, I must give to you the rest of transitions?.....think you must be improved?

[Boucman]

Ok, we have problems integrating on macs, I need to debug that with the mac packager, so uncortunately I can't pack things for you...

ok,then this means i can't see the result?.....this is as working on the dark....at least, the first images are working well?

yes, i'm doing my best to find a way to provide you feedback, i'll keep you posted.

I was able to integrate all the transitions you provided, and they do look great... keep up the good work

eventually, we'll have to talk about recoloring to be able to handle all types of water, but there is no emergency on that side

yes, it's true. But I propose for a other kinds of waves, the bood and the pestilence waves. But first, keep working on the current version. then, I must give to you the rest of transitions?.....think you must be improved?

i guess by pestilence you mean swamp...

i'm not sure what you mean by "bood" though...

the images you provided are for deep water (ocean) arn't they ? (it's trivial to change if I got it wrong)

in any case, I agree. let's finish what we have started and move on later...

[Gambit]

i guess by pestilence you mean swamp...

i'm not sure what you mean by "bood" though...

He provided this earlier. I think that's what he means?

[rhyging5]

guess by pestilence you mean swamp...

i'm not sure what you mean by "bood" though...

the images you provided are for deep water (ocean) arn't they ? (it's trivial to change if I got it wrong)

-yes, I mean the swamp waves
-for the blood waves I mean a red waves that can be used as a to ancestral, dangerous and terrific waves........or a normal waves with a recent battle with many deaths.....for example....
-yes they are deep water....for the shallow waters we will use the same with a clear tone....as the current mainline....

[Mefisto]

Do you intend to make water-water transitions?

[Boucman]

probably, rhyging5 already provided them for ocean<->ocean

[Yoyobuae]

*snip*
Yoyobuae : it's not as simple as just droping a file, you'll need all the images (which are not the ones rhyging5 provided, I had to chop and rename some of them)
*snip*

All the more interesting for me, as a learning experience.

I think I know more or less how things should be set up. But having your cfg file as an example would be quite helpful so I can do it myself. I can chop up the images as required (I think).

I just want to follow the progress of this (and enjoy it in game) by setting it up on my own, with minimal fuzz for other people. That's the beauty of having easy access to cfg files and such.

But if you think it's too much trouble, I guess I'll eventually work out a cfg file on my own.

[Boucman]

i'd be impressed if you did, I had to heavily modify the castle-cutter tool to have it do what I needed...

more to the point, I'd rather not post some work in progress in the forum...

badly applying the change can break your wesnoth install and I can troubleshoot one or two users I certainly can't fix everybody's wesnoth.

Once i'm confident enough i'll commit it to mainline and everybody will have it, but in the meantime I reserve it to those that really need it... mainly artists.

[Kleptomane]

I must say, this is impressive work.

Do you intend to make water-water transitions?

Yes, this has me curious I'm looking forward to seeing how the shallow/deep water to ford transitions will look like.

[DerWer2]

This is my first post on this forum. I have to ask, has anyone considered animating fog?

[EELuminatus]

Aye, welcome DerWer ! - and right away, there's things to learn :

A thread called "water animation" is not about fog, so I'd say : wrong thread.
As there is no thread about fog that I know of, you might consider opening one...
... BUT, the question you should be able to answer then, especially, is: Why do you "have to ask"?
- If you want to suggest making it yourself, do it ! (Preferably posting a sample, right away.)
- If you just want it to be discussed, you're unlikely to find anyone else jumping at it, so rather don't post - it's useless.


Anyway, to answer your question: to my knowledge - no.
At least it seems to be far off the priority list (which is the main reason why simply suggesting it to be done seems useless to me), and frankly: I can't even imagine it to look good/realistic. I've rarely seen fog visibly moving... ... so anyway I'd say: no animation needed.

-for the blood waves I mean a red waves that can be used as a to ancestral, dangerous and terrific waves

You still like the dangerous wheather idea, huh? ... same animations in different colours would be entirely pleasing, before getting on to adv. level stuff, no? (Even though I'm confident you could do it, looking truly terrific and all!)

[DerWer2]

I didn't think it was so important that it needed it's own thread. If someone else thinks otherwise by all means make a new thread.

As far as it looking good/realistic, there where doubts at the beginning of this thread as to whether or not water animations where plausible.

To the subject of if I should design a fog animation myself. First of all I am not an animator or even an artist, my comment was solely for the sake stimulating further conversation.

Great job rhyging5.

[khilas]

I just want to show my support: rhyging5: you are doing a great job!

[rhyging5]

derwer2: personally, I like to hear all opinions. Think that all hide something to think about. In the case of your, think that is not necesary to animate fog, because it moves so slowly. So if we do,it could seems another thing (like white smoke for instance).

EEluminatus: then, you like my idea? I image that blood waves with some floating bones and fodder...but have to much work before that