Outlaws - Finished!

[kitty]

since the shape of the knife's blade seemed to be so close to you guys' hearts, i changed it to a double edged blade. and i resized the hand on lordbob's suggestion.
i call him finished now, please commit.


tsr why should i? if you express such change requests, add a *very* good explanation. without good reasoning i'll tend to ignore you.
shadow master edward scissorhands is a bit darker, isn't he? but i know what you mean looking at the hairstyle and belts...
lordbob i scaled the hand up but i didn't change the thumb's position because if i rotated the hand to a position that allowed the thumb to be visible, i would have to reposition and redraw the entire arm.

[thespaceinvader]

Those little details niggle sometimes - sorry to be a pain. The new knife looks awesome.

Commit monkey powers, activate =D

[Turuk]

since the shape of the knife's blade seemed to be so close to you guys' hearts, i changed it to a double edged blade. and i resized the hand on lordbob's suggestion.

Sorry kitty, I know it seemed like we were all after you about it, but:

Those little details niggle sometimes - sorry to be a pain. The new knife looks awesome.

Totally agreed, the new knife fits much better. Great work on these portraits so far, I look forward to seeing what else you come up with.

[tsr]

tsr why should i? if you express such change requests, add a *very* good explanation. without good reasoning i'll tend to ignore you.

That's more than fair.

First reason is that I get a feeling that the artist (that would be you) just made "another vertical scar", instead of "one more scar", the second is that the whole image feels very tall and a horizontal scar would imho change that.

I don't think you take those as *very* good reasons, probably not even good

Thanks anyway for taking the time to say how you want your c&c.

/tsr

[kitty]

a start for the female assassin. unshaded, colours are preliminary, etc... it would be more realistical to have the blades and her face darkened with some smut but then i'd have no focal points at all and a uniform dark-grey thingie. thus we'll have to live with this bit of un-realism.

tsi: thanks little monkey! do i owe you a banana now?
turuk: changing his knife was really no problem
tsr: ah, thanks for the explanation, i see what you mean. but it doesn't bother me enough to go back and change it right now.

[ShikadiQueen]

Ninjas are taking over Wesnoth.

[thespaceinvader]

That looks fantastic. You need to clean up the rear knife blade, though...

Do you want me to wire the current Thief portraits in for the Rogue as well, by the way? It might be useful even until you come up with a new one if you planning on doing so, since having something in place for 1.6 would be good.

And no, I don't like bananas

[Iris]

Reminder: the female Rogue already uses the female Thief portrait.

I'd like to have her as l1 and 2. perhaps i'll do seperate l2 portraits at a later point but for now the units are similar enough.

Good.

Done, but not for 1.6 RC1. It'll have to wait for 1.6 RC2 (1.5.13).

[JW]

I like the assassin, but her eyes appear too warm and caring to me.

[Sgt. Groovy]

Looks great otherwise, except there is nothing particulary medievalesque about her getup. To me she doesn't even look much like a ninja, but more like a SWAT member (with knives instead of firearms).

[zookeeper]

Wow, really nice. I think adding some extra accessory or other detail to the head might be a good idea, though...like a bandana or something similar, like the sprite has.

Also I'm kind of craving to see a reverse knife grip (just holding the knife the other way around) on some of these guys, just because it always looks cool.

[thespaceinvader]

The Thief is now attached to the rogue in trunk.

[Sgt. Groovy]

How about something like this for a hood (with something extra to cover the lower face)? I would also drop the shoulder pads, without any other armour they look kinda silly.

[LordBob]

Wow, your assassin is impressive!

Hood: I second the design Groovy suggests. It would add a very welcome medieval flavour to the classical ninja hood.

Shoulder pads: once again I agree with Groovy, they do feel light armour-wise. An alternative to dropping them might be a single heavier pauldron covering the upper arm and breast. This would give her a "strong side" which she knows can be exposed when dodging isn't an option.

Blades: an alternative to darkening them might be the use of a darker iron nuance, similiar to the armour of my Iron Mauler. The blade would be dark, but retain bright reflections on the edges (think of a tool on which sharpening reveals the raw steel, like those two). I think this would enhance the sharp, threatening look of the blades.

[Guidrion]

I have to agree too with Groovy: her equipment doesn't feel medieval at all and it wouldn't be that great to have another ninja (in fact, i'v always thought that even the sprite doesn't match with the wesnothian design).

A combination of the hood from Groovy and the heavy pauldron that Lordbob suggested would give her much more personnality.