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Troll Hero

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Inspired by this thread http://www.wesnoth.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=20984 i present a small frankenstein which may serve as a base frame for the Troll Hero instead of confusingly using the grunt's frames. I wanted to show some slightly better equipment in the form of a traditional war hammer (as opposed too the baseball-bat type thing the grunt uses, and the massive maul of the warrior), and a belt; and a different pose to differentiate the two.

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Is it worth animating?
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His weapon is a bit strange. Perhaps a bit little for a troll hero? :hmm:
The rest is pretty well done.
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Contrary to popular belief, war hammers are/were not huge great lumps of metal. They are quite small. In fact, a relatively small striking surface is more effective, as it concentrates the force of the hit in a smaller area, doing more damage. Google image search for war hammers to see what i mean...

The animation would be essentially a copy of the grunt's - striking two handed.
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Well, sure, warhammers were a bit smaller. But when you have a huge troll using them, you should make them bigger.

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Tried a little edit, primarily to emphasize the shape of the hammer's head.
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That weapon definitely works, not sure about all the bling, though...

EDIT: and i was actually going for a rectangular head. But meh. Yours still looks better.
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The weapon can be mistaken with an axe (that's what the frame suggests to me).
Btw i wouldn't mind to have The troll Hero use an axe instead of a hammer.
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I was wondering about suggesting an alternate attack which uses the spike on the back of the hammer to do Pierce damage, actually...
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Perhaps you should differentiate their body a bit more. I can barely notice the different weapon.
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I was thinking the same myself, the problem, though, is how... I can't see the trolls wearing armour, or anything more than modesty clothing, so... Weapons are about it...
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Would it be too much work to have him look straight ahead instead of downwards? That would probably make him look more unique.

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thespaceinvader wrote:I was thinking the same myself, the problem, though, is how... I can't see the trolls wearing armour, or anything more than modesty clothing, so... Weapons are about it...
Hence the bling that megane put in ;)

But seriously I can imagine them having upper-arm-bracelets or chest-plates as adornments but probably made out of a lesser metal than gold and obviously without any armor-value.

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I have made a new troll hero... Is it better or worse than the ones showed here?
EDIT: Forgot the shadow :?
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tsr wrote:
thespaceinvader wrote:I was thinking the same myself, the problem, though, is how... I can't see the trolls wearing armour, or anything more than modesty clothing, so... Weapons are about it...
Hence the bling that megane put in ;)

But seriously I can imagine them having upper-arm-bracelets or chest-plates as adornments but probably made out of a lesser metal than gold and obviously without any armor-value.

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Good point - the Warrior, after all, has spiked rings around his ankles. Maybe something of that order.

Tapsa: the pose would ideally be facing slightly more away from camera, but it may be useful in designing a sprite for the Great Troll. The execution, however, is a little grainy, and lacking in detail, and the arm holding the bottom end f the hammer looks very short to med. Overall, it's good but (IMHO) megane's version is better. I like the belt on yours =)
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My problem with megane's is the pose is basically the same as that of the Troll; he just has a different weapon. I like Tapsa's because it shows a troll not in the "stand up straight with head bowed looking menacing" pose.
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