Epic Between the Tides (A 1.14 single player campaign)

[white_haired_uncle]

Played on easy, and it was pretty fair. I ran into a couple areas where I just got slaughtered.

Spoiler:

Mysterious river. Unlike a few months ago when I played, I had time to get past the bottleneck in the mountains and get some units into position. I had merfolk in the river and sometimes on the west bank, while the orcs handled things on the east bank. Things were going quite well, western leader dead, orcs killing bandits in the river. Then the undead arrived out of the fog and in two turns I went from about 12 merfolk to 3. They just never missed. Tried to get some help from the orcs, but too many of my attacks were pierce.

Saurian homeland. Probably partially because of the above, I had few veterans and little gold. Around turn 9 I finished off the first wave of drakes and sent my heroes racing to get to the city due to the misleading objectives while the merfolk headed to kill the drake leader. The drakes had a lot more hitpoints than my merfolk, along with a health positive flow of gold and tore up my merfolk.

BTW, what was the point of collecting gold in Fishing Gold? Was it just encouragement to find the items?

[Konrad2]

Green Trolls
rune master -> runemaster
reminds magician -> remember magician

Fishing Gold
not do much for him, -> not do much for them,
lair -> liar
and collect more gold you can. -> and collect as much gold as you can

[Argesilao]

Spoiler:

Mysterious river. Unlike a few months ago when I played, I had time to get past the bottleneck in the mountains and get some units into position. I had merfolk in the river and sometimes on the west bank, while the orcs handled things on the east bank. Things were going quite well, western leader dead, orcs killing bandits in the river. Then the undead arrived out of the fog and in two turns I went from about 12 merfolk to 3. They just never missed. Tried to get some help from the orcs, but too many of my attacks were pierce.

Try to use more orcish archer and more brawler, their fire and impact attack are very effective against undeads and skeletons.

Saurian homeland. Probably partially because of the above, I had few veterans and little gold. Around turn 9 I finished off the first wave of drakes and sent my heroes racing to get to the city due to the misleading objectives while the merfolk headed to kill the drake leader. The drakes had a lot more hitpoints than my merfolk, along with a health positive flow of gold and tore up my merfolk.

Well, the second objective (defeat Gigandul) it's a bit extreme.

BTW, what was the point of collecting gold in Fishing Gold? Was it just encouragement to find the items?

the original idea was that gold should be useful, but when I changed the plot of the scenario the search for the gold has become an useful expedient to encourage exploration of wrecks

Green Trolls
rune master -> runemaster
reminds magician -> remember magician

Fishing Gold
not do much for him, -> not do much for them,
lair -> liar
and collect more gold you can. -> and collect as much gold as you can

fixed (2.0.7 version)

[white_haired_uncle]

Spoiler:

Mysterious river. Unlike a few months ago when I played, I had time to get past the bottleneck in the mountains and get some units into position. I had merfolk in the river and sometimes on the west bank, while the orcs handled things on the east bank. Things were going quite well, western leader dead, orcs killing bandits in the river. Then the undead arrived out of the fog and in two turns I went from about 12 merfolk to 3. They just never missed. Tried to get some help from the orcs, but too many of my attacks were pierce.

Try to use more orcish archer and more brawler, their fire and impact attack are very effective against undeads and skeletons.

Saurian homeland. Probably partially because of the above, I had few veterans and little gold. Around turn 9 I finished off the first wave of drakes and sent my heroes racing to get to the city due to the misleading objectives while the merfolk headed to kill the drake leader. The drakes had a lot more hitpoints than my merfolk, along with a health positive flow of gold and tore up my merfolk.

Well, the second objective (defeat Gigandul) it's a bit extreme.

I figured my unit selection could be better. But, I'm not sure how much of a difference it would make. A big part of the issue I had was the enemy appeared out of the fog and killed a lot of my units in one turn. They could do a lot of damage, my units had relatively few HP, and I couldn't prepare for them. It's hard to hit back effectively when you're already dead.

The second objective is pretty darn extreme. Looking back, I'm wondering. I assumed you had to accomplish both. Now I'm thinking that if you actually had a choice of which objective and could focus on either one or the other the scenario/objectives would make a lot more sense. Is it supposed to be a choice?

[Argesilao]

The second objective is pretty darn extreme. Looking back, I'm wondering. I assumed you had to accomplish both. Now I'm thinking that if you actually had a choice of which objective and could focus on either one or the other the scenario/objectives would make a lot more sense. Is it supposed to be a choice?

More than anything it would be an option, for action's lovers

Probably I should give a greater prize to those who reach it. I'll think something when I'll review the campaign

[Konrad2]

The amulett in 'Fishing Gold' increases the arcane resistance by only 40% (unlike the 60% in it's description).
And it would be quite helpful if the item description was given before choosing to use the item.

The Saurian Homeland
I find it extremely odd that the villages in that saurian city do not belong to the saurian leader. Even more how unresponsive he is to everthing that is going on.

When you defeat the drake leader, he says that his son will 'revenge' him. The right word is 'avenge'.

Battle for Bashaur
My ally died in turn 3 because he moved in range of an enemy leader and got attacked.
And even when he survives, he keeps doing it. Which causes him to be eventually hit for a lot of damage, so the lvl 1 drakes can finish him off easily.
(Not to mention that they get overrun quite fast.)
And I just can't save him if he decides to play suicidal like this.

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I basically request that the saurians get more gold (on hard) and that their leader has less mp (no matter the difficulty).

Reunion on the Fog Island
The scenario does not end after defeating all enemies. (I used debug commands to get past the Battle of Bashaur. But the dialog happened and the two saurians joined me.)

EDIT:
Another way to help the playere in this scenario would be giving the Undead more gold. And reduce the enemy income.

[Argesilao]

The amulett in 'Fishing Gold' increases the arcane resistance by only 40% (unlike the 60% in it's description).
And it would be quite helpful if the item description was given before choosing to use the item.

fixed

The Saurian Homeland
I find it extremely odd that the villages in that saurian city do not belong to the saurian leader. Even more how unresponsive he is to everthing that is going on.

In this scenario saurians are only for scenery.

Battle for Bashaur
My ally died in turn 3 because he moved in range of an enemy leader and got attacked.
And even when he survives, he keeps doing it. Which causes him to be eventually hit for a lot of damage, so the lvl 1 drakes can finish him off easily.
(Not to mention that they get overrun quite fast.)
And I just can't save him if he decides to play suicidal like this.
I basically request that the saurians get more gold (on hard) and that their leader has less mp (no matter the difficulty).
EDIT:
Another way to help the playere in this scenario would be giving the Undead more gold. And reduce the enemy income.

I set to 0 the MP of the saurian's leader, so he can't leave his keep, I added +25 gold pieces for saurians in normal and +50 gold pieces in hard, and I change the income of saurians and their adjacent drakes.

Reunion on the Fog Island
The scenario does not end after defeating all enemies. (I used debug commands to get past the Battle of Bashaur. But the dialog happened and the two saurians joined me.)

I confess that I have no idea why this happened, but I have a little suspect. Anyway I changed the check for the victory.

It's all in the 2.0.9 version.

[Konrad2]

Battle for Bashaur
Gigandul can recall units from 'The Saurian Homeland' (where he got an early finish bonus btw), which includes the loyal units he had on the map and the reinforcements his son brought. Is that intended? (Those units are lvl 2 units.)

And you did not set the mp of my allied leader to 0.

[Argesilao]

Battle for Bashaur
Gigandul can recall units from 'The Saurian Homeland' (where he got an early finish bonus btw), which includes the loyal units he had on the map and the reinforcements his son brought. Is that intended? (Those units are lvl 2 units.)

It's possible
I posted the campaign in the 2018 but I realized it the year before, so I don't remember

And you did not set the mp of my allied leader to 0.

The max_moves of the saurian leader was set to 0 in the previous scenario (the saurian homeland)

[Konrad2]

The max_moves of the saurian leader was set to 0 in the previous scenario (the saurian homeland)

But we were talking about The Battle of Bashaur. D:
Anyway, it's good as it is since apparently he is less likely to suicide than I thought. And him moving around and attacking enemies is very helpful and necessary.