The Ravagers - SP campaign for Wesnoth 1.16 [Feedback and development]

[lucid1]

Hello,

Firstly, thank you WhiteWolf for an awesome campaign!

I had a question about #16 - The Wail. It seems that, as Narduum, I can still recruit and recall from Dayton's list (including human soldiers).

Is that how it's supposed to work? It feels a bit odd to me, because this is supposed to be a flashback from the point of view of a different character...

[WhiteWolf]

Hello and welcome to the forums

I had a question about #16 - The Wail. It seems that, as Narduum, I can still recruit and recall from Dayton's list (including human soldiers).

It seems I was a little lazy, and did not alter those lists for the reason that there are absolutely no keeps (Narduum is standing in a fortification, which you can't recruit from) on the map, and you can't recruit or recall anyways. However, I just realized (after a few years of Wesnoth, I'm in time ) that ctrl+r works regardless of where your leader is standing, and shows the recruit list, only to say "you can't recruit here" once you select a unit. I always used the right-click recruit item, which doesn't show up at all when your leader is not standing in a keep, therefore I thought the recruit list is hidden. Apparently it is not hidden completely.
I'll fix this in the next version. In the meantime, this shouldn't block your progress with the map, it's just an aesthetic bug - you still can't recruit or recall, even if you tried

[lucid1]

Thanks WhiteWolf! Ah yes, I mistook the fortification for a keep, and I do use the keyboard shortcuts.

Also, I just finished the campaign, and it was a fantastic experience. I thought the storytelling was magnificent, and I loved all the additional "special effects" and extras, it's truly a work of art and a really nice step up from when I played it long time ago on 1.12. Thanks a lot for writing it! I'll keep my eyes open for the upcoming side-quests

[WhiteWolf]

Ah yes, I mistook the fortification for a keep, and I do use the keyboard shortcuts.

It is now fixed 1.1.21 has been uploaded to the add-ons server.
Sorry for the late answer, but I had my thesis due these weeks. On the other hand, for some mysterious reason my ideas for Wesnoth seem to thrive with academic pressure... Sadly no new sidequests yet, but 1.1.21 implements some quite new changes:

• The earl of Dorest and his fate now is not set in stone, it depends on the player's choices instead, which of course also affects the flow of some battles. All in all 3 people can become earl and there are 5 different endings for this arc. (For saved games, the 'old' standard Earl William arc is selected).
• There is a new unit with a unique ability that can be recruited on the extended list by Wulfius and Wolfras: Dopplers with the "mimic" ability.
  More on Dopplers:

  Mimic: When this unit is appears by any way, it transforms into the mimic shape of a random unit of the mimic's level that is already present on the battlefield. If no such unit exists, it randomly transforms into an animal instead.
  The created unit will retain the 'mimic (shape)' ability.
  
  mimic (shape) ability: This unit is a shape taken by a unit with the mimic ability. When this unit advances, it will try to mimic units of +1 level. If no such unit exists, the shape only full heals upon advancement.
  
  There is also a small tutorial once Dopplers are recruited. It's a very RNG-unit, but can be manipulated to mirror any side or to use them as a discount-farm on fresh recruits. Downsides are the lack of AMLA and the limited advancing options.
  
  Sidenote for those looking for possibilities everywhere: Earlier it was possible to convert a legendary enemy using Death's Blood with a reward Warlock. This was blacklisted.
  Now however, a tricky Doppler can mimic a legendary enemy. Since you can have level 4 units, a Doppler may advance up to level 4. Then, if the Doppler can advance by any means while a legendary enemy is on the map... well It will never AMLA of course, restricting it from being too OP.
• Implemented an older idea by Konrad2 that the vanquisher units of epic enemies should receive a little reward in addition to their title. The titles now also serve as abilities.

Full changelog 1.1.21:

- The Earl of Dorest now depends on your choices
- There is now a small ability-reward for the slayer of epic enemies
- New units for Wulfius and Wolfras to recruit on extended list: Doppler
- Recruiting and recalling is now properly disallowed on map 16
- There are no longer epic enemies on map 16
- Whess: Leadership now shows new leader card when played
- Whess: Fixed buggy ctd as AI leader card play
- Fixed team colors in Inn quests started from Inn 5 scenario
- Slight changes to ability prices: Tharos and Milla ability +1%, Gallien and Dothar ability -2% change.

EDITED:
There is also 1.1.3 of the Era of the Ravagers, implementing the dopplers and bringing fixes to some not-working abilities.

[Major_Swampy]

Hi, whitewolf. I've finished this campaign and all parts of the Underness series after one year ago. The Ravagers very amazing story, I played this campaign on wesnoth version 1.12. And thanks for my feedback.

[WhiteWolf]

Hello, I'm glad you liked it

I played this campaign on wesnoth version 1.12.

If that's the case though, why not update to 1.14? Wesnoth itself has many remarkable innovations with 1.14, and that applies to the Ravagers campaign as well. Not only is 1.12 no longer supported at all, but in the 1.14 versions the campaign story is still evolving and getting regular updates, with the aim of 2.0 coming soon.
If you liked it in 1.12, I really recommend giving the 1.14 versions a try some time in the future.

[Major_Swampy]

If that's the case though, why not update to 1.14? Wesnoth itself has many remarkable innovations with 1.14, and that applies to the Ravagers campaign as well. Not only is 1.12 no longer supported at all, but in the 1.14 versions the campaign story is still evolving and getting regular updates, with the aim of 2.0 coming soon.
If you liked it in 1.12, I really recommend giving the 1.14 versions a try some time in the future.

(To Whitewolf) Because I'm playing in the middle of Dragon Trilogy's campaign by Revansurik, but I have wesnoth 1.14 installer already. So I need to complete that campaign as soon as possible. But if you can maintain Dragon Trilogy's campaign by fixing the bugs and upload them to 1.14 wesnoth version, I will play that campaign and the Ravagers again on 1.14 if already uploaded. Because Revansurik was being abandoned the forum about 9th june 2018. Trilogy's campaign have 3 sequel campaigns, but their dependencies are War of Legends era and ASoF music. I don't know that War of Legends by Lord Knightmare has been uploaded on 1.14.

Best Regards,
DukeSwampy.

[gnombat]

Note that, on most operating systems, you can have Wesnoth 1.12 and Wesnoth 1.14 both installed at the same time.

[Konrad2]

Note that, on most operating systems, you can have Wesnoth 1.12 and Wesnoth 1.14 both installed at the same time.

'Most operating systems' includes toasters.

[WhiteWolf]

But if you can maintain Dragon Trilogy's campaign by fixing the bugs and upload them to 1.14 wesnoth version, I will play that campaign and the Ravagers again on 1.14 if already uploaded. Because Revansurik was being abandoned the forum about 9th june 2018.

If you know for sure that a campaign has been abandoned for good, you might have better luck finding someone eager to port and maintain it in this topic. I personally can't take up another task like that, as after Ravagers, I still have the Underness Series to port.
As said, the Ravagers is already uploaded to 1.14, currently with version 1.1.21.

If I recall correctly, War of Legends is also indeed published in 1.14. I don't know about ASoF music.

And yes, having both 1.12 and 1.14 installed at the same time should be no problem, I have both of them too

[Major_Swampy]

If you know for sure that a campaign has been abandoned for good, you might have better luck finding someone eager to port and maintain it in this topic. I personally can't take up another task like that, as after Ravagers, I still have the Underness Series to port.

Alright, if you don't want to. I'm off to play Underness series again after completing trilogy's campaign for more fun and missed with Vormund and Loivissa. But no thanks about that topic.

If I recall correctly, War of Legends is also indeed published in 1.14.

As I search, that era has been uploaded about 21 May 2018.

And yes, having both 1.12 and 1.14 installed at the same time should be no problem, I have both of them too

I have installed both version about less than one year ago, both version 1.12.6 and 1.14.3. But now, I have 1.14.6 installer.

Best Regards,
DukeSwampy

[WhiteWolf]

I have installed both version about less than one year ago, both version 1.12.6 and 1.14.3. But now, I have 1.14.6 installer.

When you decide to give 1.14 a go, I strongly recommend first removing 1.14.3 and installing 1.14.6 instead, because there is a known bug for Wesnoth versions 1.14.5 or earlier, see the front page "Known Issues" bar for details

[Konrad2]

Btw, why do you include the scenario number in the scenario name?

[EarthCake]

legenadry -> legendary
gather round -> gather around (or 'round)
meself -> myself

EDIT: For some reason, when an enemy unit dies from effect of savage weapon (-4 HP), I don't recieve in statistics that that unit has been killed.

[Konrad2]

The Ravagers has now some replay topics.