Shadow Lord, now online for both 1.8.x and 1.9.x

[Rowanthepreacher]

... I hate it when things are my fault

Thanks Kapoue.

P.S. I'm not going to submit this post until I've done all of that, so I know whether to thank or verbally assault you.

ALL HAIL KAPOUE! The spelling could use some work...

[Kapoue_II]

... I hate it when things are my fault

Lol, they are so often my fault I've grown used to it

P.S. I'm not going to submit this post until I've done all of that, so I know whether to thank or verbally assault you.

Good idea

The spelling could use some work...

The scenario or my forum posting?

[Rowanthepreacher]

The scenario. There weren't many spelling mistakes, but every incorrect letter makes me weep.

P.S. The first scenario is awesome and the difficulty is just right. The second scenario was like a fight between the Third Reich and a kitten. The player is the kitten. First we're stripped of our most awesome ability, then pitted against three foes, each able to give us a fair fight on their own, on terrible terrain, with an underpowered faction (EoMa is regarded as being underpowered vs mainline).

[Kapoue_II]

The scenario. There weren't many spelling mistakes, but every incorrect letter makes me weep.

I didn't spot any........ but I will double check. If ou can point them out to me, that would be great.

P.S. The first scenario is awesome and the difficulty is just right.

Good. I have spent most of my time on that one.

The second scenario was like a fight between the Third Reich and a kitten. The player is the kitten. First we're stripped of our most awesome ability, then pitted against three foes, each able to give us a fair fight on their own, on terrible terrain, with an underpowered faction (EoMa is regarded as being underpowered vs mainline).

Ah. Balancing changes needed ASAP then. Any suggestions? I think I should do one of the following:
1) Redesign the map so that you effectively fight the first one quickly (and then winning gives you loads of villages), before moving on to the other two.
2) Alter gold/income for the player and the ai. I'm thinking high starting gold for the player, and high income for the ai. That way, you have to move fast to win, without having to use a low turn limit.
3) go back to having only 2 ai's

If none of those sound appealing, then I can always bring in the big guns, and start using the War Master and/or the Master of Corruption much, much sooner than I had planned to. If I did that, the scenario would work like this instead:

Spoiler:

Instead of controlling the summoners, you would control either the War Master (WM) or the Master of Corruption (MoC). Your job would be to ensure the summoners win (summoners being ai controlled) without the summoners spotting you-you would need to assasinate the troll leader(s). Your time limit would be how long until
1) The summoners get too far up the tunnel, and find you.
2) The trolls beat up the summoners, and the Shadow Lord is revealed.

If I took this path, it would involve 2-3 weeks more work, as I need new rules and artwork for the WC/MoC, not to mention the (effectively new) scenario to write up. However, I will need them done anyway, as I want them for later on as well. This would just means jumping ahead of schedule.

Opinions anyone?

[Rowanthepreacher]

I'll have another play through and list the spelling mistakes.

That other mission you describe sounds awesome beyond words. A thought, however: Is it possible to make the Lord friendly towards a faction, while still being able to attack them? I'm just wondering about the possibility of hacking through some foes as the WC/MoC, then dropping the disguise to snatch a leader's body, and using that to assassinate the other leaders. ...I've watched "The Thing" recently.

For scenario 2, I'd prefer the "quickly deal with the first one" approach.

[Kapoue_II]

I'll have another play through and list the spelling mistakes.

Is it possible to make the Lord friendly towards a faction, while still being able to attack them? I'm just wondering about the possibility of hacking through some foes as the WC/MoC, then dropping the disguise to snatch a leader's body, and using that to assassinate the other leaders. ...I've watched "The Thing" recently.

Yes. However, neither the WM or the MoC use the same takeform weapon special as the Shadow Lord. Instead, they each have their own ability that makes them powerful.

Spoiler:

The War Master has no range attack, a 14-4 melee attack, and the fury ability. Fury means that everytime he kills an enemy, he 1mp back, and can attack again. This means he can literaly slay an entire army in a turn-but only if they stand like a row of dominoes, and none of them can fight back.

The Master of Corruption is much more subtle. He can implant a piece of his soul (ie, 10 hp) into a nearby enemy, turning them traitor, and giving him a minion to command. He can only do this twice a turn however, and it cannot be used on leaders. He can also use 10 hp to restore 10 hp to the shadow lord or the WM.

So, the second scenario would be the WM and the MoC working together to move swiftly through the tunnels, one corrupting trolls, the other slaying them. The player could use corrupt trolls to help stall the summoners in a pinch, while the two Masters take out the rest of the trolls.

[sur.nhm]

Bug report:
(Using Battle for Wesnoth v1.9.5+svn (49275) on Xubuntu 10.10)
When I try to play the campaign, I get the following errors, and Wesnoth goes back to the main menu:

20110419 09:29:44 error general: The following add-on had errors and could not be loaded:
/home/jon/.local/share/wesnoth/1.9/data/add-ons/MoN/_main.cfg
ERROR DETAILS:
Macro/file '~add-ons/orcs_era/races.cfg' is missing at ~add-ons/MoN/_main.cfg:115

20110419 09:29:44 error general: Unknown scenario: 'dwarves'

[Velensk]

Upon downloading and attempting to open this on 1.9, I run into a bug where it tells me it cannot find the unit for something with 'summoner' in the id.

[arobinson]

1.8.5 -- As soon as you try to start you get a game_error of "unknown unit type: I8 Ak_SummonerIII". Is there an undocumented Era that is needed?