Blitz a duel map for super fast play!
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Blitz a duel map for super fast play!
Seems balanced pretty good, but most importantly it's so fast to play. Hard to say if being so small will take away from the depth of the map. Recommended setting of 2g per village.
maps must be at least 20X20 to function properly. I haven't downloaded. Is it?
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I've only posted two maps. I doubt I'll ever post 50. If you don't want to read my topics just ignore them as they are clearly multiplayer map topics. If I am cluttering up the forum maybe there should be a forum for just multiplayer maps?
I get most of my feedback by playing players on the multiplayer server and the few comments I've had is the result of me asking players to post feedback. I think part of the problem is most multiplayer players don't frequent this forum and it's more single player focused. Yet it is useful to have someplace where players can download my map if they want to host games. I also link to them in the wiki for multiplayer maps.
It's not like multiplayer maps are easy to make either. Balance is much harder than single player maps IMO if only because of how much harder it is to test. I do test at least a few games with the CPU but humans play very differently. It is hard to find people to test maps with you. My maps seem to play fairly well so far but I've only tested both about 50 turns total versus real people.
I get most of my feedback by playing players on the multiplayer server and the few comments I've had is the result of me asking players to post feedback. I think part of the problem is most multiplayer players don't frequent this forum and it's more single player focused. Yet it is useful to have someplace where players can download my map if they want to host games. I also link to them in the wiki for multiplayer maps.
It's not like multiplayer maps are easy to make either. Balance is much harder than single player maps IMO if only because of how much harder it is to test. I do test at least a few games with the CPU but humans play very differently. It is hard to find people to test maps with you. My maps seem to play fairly well so far but I've only tested both about 50 turns total versus real people.
its a lot easier to balance when you have a friend/relative who lives nearby and is willing to help you balance the map several times. 
also, that way you can be in the same room and be talking about map balance, rather than having to use the chat mode, which doesn't convey ideas as well IMHO...
also, that way you can be in the same room and be talking about map balance, rather than having to use the chat mode, which doesn't convey ideas as well IMHO...For I am Turin Turambar - Master of Doom, by doom mastered. On permanent Wesbreak. Will not respond to private messages. Sorry!
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Yes I've noticed the same. I am not sure if it's exactly the maps fault though. Some factions have very weak or no water units at all so they struggle a bit on the map. I am thinking eventually everyone will have a decent water unit but maybe I am wrong. I have to test this but it maybe possible to win by ignoring the water completely and doing an all out attack on one side of the map. I am also testing a slightly altered version which weakens water(smaller, 2 less villages) and makes the bottleneck bridges on the side of the map easier to bypass.
it's still boring to use only them though...pg wrote:I am thinking eventually everyone will have a decent water unit but maybe I am wrong.
If the opponent is blocking off the pass with water units, you can't.pg wrote:I have to test this but it maybe possible to win by ignoring the water completely and doing an all out attack on one side of the map.
no, sorry, everyone won't eventually have a good water unit. everyone will get units that can pass deep water; right now, everyone does, but some have flying units that have 50% everywhere. the advantage to them is they can go everywhere, not just on water.pg wrote:Yes I've noticed the same. I am not sure if it's exactly the maps fault though. Some factions have very weak or no water units at all so they struggle a bit on the map. I am thinking eventually everyone will have a decent water unit but maybe I am wrong. I have to test this but it maybe possible to win by ignoring the water completely and doing an all out attack on one side of the map. I am also testing a slightly altered version which weakens water(smaller, 2 less villages) and makes the bottleneck bridges on the side of the map easier to bypass.
(right now, northerners rebels and loyalists have water units. dwarves, undead and drakes don't.)
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Yeah I don't know what I was thinking it's rebalanced some now(basically what I said before). New version below.Dacyn wrote:it's still boring to use only them though...
I didn't say good water unit I said decent. If you look at dwarves in multiplayer they are helpless in the water even races like undead and drakes are much better off. Seems weird if you would only use certain races on maps with water or other terrains.turin wrote:no, sorry, everyone won't eventually have a good water unit. everyone will get units that can pass deep water; right now, everyone does, but some have flying units that have 50% everywhere. the advantage to them is they can go everywhere, not just on water.
(right now, northerners rebels and loyalists have water units. dwarves, undead and drakes don't.)
Dwarves should be able to play well on the map now that it's changed however.-
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I tried using Undead on it... believe me, that was NOT a quick game.casueps wrote:This map rocks. I think there are a lot of times where people want a quick game and there weren't good small maps at the moment IMHO, and this one is really fun. I sometimes see the lobby with 3 or 4 games with this map.
(I dislike this map for other reasons... I generally don't like 2-way maps. Though I like my own 3-way map...)
It's all fun and games until someone loses a lawsuit. Oh, and by the way, sending me private messages won't work. :/ If you must contact me, there's an e-mail address listed on the website in my profile.
