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Re: 1.12/1.13 SP Campaign - Bad Moon Rising

Postby gfgtdf » July 15th, 2017, 12:15 pm

No it works fine, it's just a little slow compared to diurect lua unit manipulation since it always rebuilds the whole unit (create a basic unit of the type, thne reapplies all modifications, then overwrites the units values with the ones given in the variable). In the mentioned case this probably isn't a problem though. But it can be if you use it for a lot of units or when a unit has a redicilous amount of advancements/modifications.Still i'd reccomend to use use units[0],variables directly.
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Re: 1.12/1.13 SP Campaign - Bad Moon Rising

Postby Rwlyra » August 11th, 2017, 8:26 am

1.13.8 gets Broken Dependencies: Lua Fixes notification upon trying to download Bad Moon Rising 1.9.10.
Is it okay to proceed or are these Lua Fixes available somewhere?

EDIT: I downloaded Lua Fixes addon for 1.13.8, but somehow it's not the one listed in the dependency as it still pops up that notification (The selected addon has the following dependency, which is not currently installed or available from the server. Do you wish to continue?)
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Re: 1.12/1.13 SP Campaign - Bad Moon Rising

Postby gfgtdf » August 11th, 2017, 11:54 am

Rwlyra wrote:I downloaded Lua Fixes addon for 1.13.8, but somehow it's not the one listed in the dependency as it still pops up that notification (The selected addon has the following dependency, which is not currently installed or available from the server. Do you wish to continue?)


Yes there is only one lua fixes addon and it shoudl work once you have installed it. bad moon rising has probably a typo somcehwere in the dependency list (spaces/unsercroers, case).
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Re: 1.12/1.13 SP Campaign - Bad Moon Rising

Postby doofus-01 » August 12th, 2017, 12:25 pm

Rwlyra wrote:1.13.8 gets Broken Dependencies: Lua Fixes notification upon trying to download Bad Moon Rising 1.9.10.
Thanks for bringing it to my attention. And thanks, gfgtdf, for answering. Looks like I used the "Lua Fixes" title instead of the "lua_fixes" directory name when specifying the dependencies.
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Re: 1.12/1.13 SP Campaign - Bad Moon Rising

Postby Wayirr » September 26th, 2017, 7:14 pm

I have tried playing Bad Moon Rising from 1.13 add-on server and run into following problems:
1. The addon Wesnoth spit out entire Credits code into console, if you press [Credits] button in mainscreen, saying
Code: Select all
warning gui/layout: pango_text::set_markup_helper text '...' has unescaped ampersands '&', escaped them.

2. error display: could not open image 'attacks/club-found.png' when killed first zombie and picked the club. It did appear in inventory without icons.
3. I'd suggest that putting an armor on increases HP to max, if it was maxed out before putting armor on, taking armor off should decrease hp to next max_hp if it was more than new max_hp. This will remove weirdness when you need to heal after putting armor on, but won't allow abuse.
4. In Scenario 2. Orcish Shield is hovering atop of an abyss
5. Javelin attacks +1 AMLA bonus doesn't actually increase javelin attacks
6. "Where he horded some weapons" -> hoarded? In intro of next scenario.
7. If you do not need gold from villages, and there is no carryover problems, why is there a turn limit at all?
8. Ghost XP is retained, however they drop to lvl1 if they have leveled up.
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Re: 1.12/1.13 SP Campaign - Bad Moon Rising

Postby doofus-01 » September 30th, 2017, 11:52 am

Thanks for reporting.

1. That's an obnoxious warning, but easy enough to fix.
2. It works for me, but I think the problem is how files are scattered across at least three add-ons, I need to get that better organized. Hopefully I can get that done before BfW 1.14 is released.
3. There has been some weirdness with the armor and HP, I'd thought I'd fixed it but maybe not. What makes sense to me is to add/remove the same amount of HP and max HP when equipping/removing the armor.
4. & 5. Whoops. I'll look into that.
6. Yeah.
7. The time limits aren't just for gold and carryover, although that is certainly a major aspect.
8. That should depend upon what difficulty level you play. Keeping their level seemed a little too easy, but losing everything seemed a little too harsh. The middle ground is a bit unsatisfying and broken-looking, I agree, I just couldn't think of something better at the time. Possibly just removing the Ghosts' levels altogether would be best.
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Re: 1.12/1.13 SP Campaign - Bad Moon Rising

Postby Wayirr » September 30th, 2017, 3:44 pm

2. I have addons: Archaic Era, Archaic Resources, Archaic Sounds and Bad Moon Rising installed, but only club icon is Bad_Moon_Rising/images/items/club-found.png not attacks/club-found.png. Perhaps it is present in some other add-on you have installed?

3. Then taking off armor while you are on bad health will kill you. Perhaps it would be more logical to scale HP proportionally to max_hp, for example if armor adds +10HP and you had 21/30 HP, then you will get 28/40 HP after putting it on, though it could still could create edge-cases because of rounding error.

7. I know, but for example killing shadow in time might be hard if you try to collect all the stuff. It tends to escape into a village, if you don't manage to kill it with your attack, but drop its HP significally.

8. Message popping up strongly suggests to pick normal difficulty (it says it's balanced while others are not), which I did.
Maybe they can lose some percentage of total XP (an example of its calculation could be found in SotA in function converting necromancers to liches), and de-level accordingly then.

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Re: 1.12/1.13 SP Campaign - Bad Moon Rising

Postby doofus-01 » September 30th, 2017, 5:39 pm

2. The problem is that Archaic_Era needs to be updated, but I didn't want to upload a new version yet for such small fixes. And I forgot which add-on that image was in, or why I put it there and not the campaign itself.

3. It would only kill you if specified to do so, but just having a 1 HP floor like mainline poison should be easy for the player to accept. Rounding errors and non-commutative (or -distributive?) arithmetic make me want to avoid proportions at all cost.

7. Turn limits can always be adjusted, but getting rid of them entirely seems a bit too much.

8. Proportional XP loss and de-leveling would be pretty either be similar to losing everything in a lot of cases. Not that it couldn't be done, but a lot of adjustments and rewrites would need to be made to accommodate it. At least I think so, but I'll keep it in mind when I revisit that scenario.

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EDIT:The add-on server won't accept my uploads for now, so fixing this will have to wait.
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Re: 1.12/1.13 SP Campaign - Bad Moon Rising

Postby doofus-01 » October 9th, 2017, 2:59 am

1.9.11 has been uploaded to the BfW 1.13 server. There are a variety of bugfixes and small, incremental improvements. The closest thing I have to a change-log is the commit history on github.com:
https://github.com/doofus-01/wesnoth-Ba ... its/master
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Re: 1.12/1.13 SP Campaign - Bad Moon Rising

Postby Poison » October 20th, 2017, 10:43 pm

I get an error at 1.13.8 immediately at the start of the campaign (right after the intro), attaching ss link:


Bad moon rising error

I have all dependencies installed.
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Re: 1.12/1.13 SP Campaign - Bad Moon Rising

Postby doofus-01 » October 21st, 2017, 1:46 am

Hi Poison,

That is because BfW 1.13.8 is obsolete. 1.13.10 should be out soon, even if it hasn't been announced yet. (Releases have been delayed longer than expected, but at least progress is being made.)
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Re: 1.12/1.13 SP Campaign - Bad Moon Rising

Postby Poison » October 21st, 2017, 1:41 pm

Ok, also the units in the intro aren't shown properly, I see swordsmen and HI and mages instead of the actual units, also the gates and animations aren't shown. So what is your advice? Play at 1.12 or not play at all and wait for 1.13.10 /1.14? For which version are you working, I'm kinda confused from your posts (is 1.12 version finished)? Also please answer for Trinity too (here or at the Trinity thread). The intro was really interesting (referring to BMR) btw.
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Re: 1.12/1.13 SP Campaign - Bad Moon Rising

Postby doofus-01 » October 21st, 2017, 10:24 pm

Poison wrote:Ok, also the units in the intro aren't shown properly, I see swordsmen and HI and mages instead of the actual units, also the gates and animations aren't shown.
Hrmm, not sure what's going on there. Hopefully it's just a 1.13.8 thing. I know the animations were broken in 1.13 for a while, I think they might be fixed in 1.13.10, I'll have to check...

Poison wrote:So what is your advice?
The 1.12 version should work, but there has been more work on it in the 1.13/1.14 version. My advice would be to wait for the next BfW development version (hopefully that's 1.13.10, hopefully really soon). Same for Trinity, though I'm still working my way through BfW 1.13 Trinity, so there are probably lots of issues with it at the moment.
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Re: 1.12/1.13 SP Campaign - Bad Moon Rising

Postby gfgtdf » October 21st, 2017, 10:59 pm

wesnoth 1.13.10 source code and windows binaries can already be downloaded from sourceforge (not sure on the macosx binaries).
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Re: 1.12/1.13 SP Campaign - Bad Moon Rising

Postby Pentarctagon » October 21st, 2017, 11:14 pm

The link to said download.

The Mac download is still TBA, since there's currently some issue(s) with the libraries Wesnoth depends on for that platform.
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